How Fast Can a Piston Move in Simple Harmonic Motion?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum velocity of a piston in simple harmonic motion, given its amplitude and the engine's operating speed. The problem involves concepts from mechanics and oscillatory motion.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between amplitude and angular frequency, attempting to apply the formula for maximum velocity. There are various attempts to convert engine speed from revolutions per minute to revolutions per second and to calculate angular frequency.

Discussion Status

Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their calculations and questioning each other's methods. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conversion of units and the use of the correct formulas, although there is no clear consensus on the correct answer yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There are indications of confusion regarding unit conversions and the application of formulas.

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Homework Statement


A piston in an automobile engine is in simple harmonic motion. Its amplitude of oscillation from the equilibrium (centered) position is ±4.73 cm and its mass is 1.733 kg. Find the maximum velocity of the piston when the auto engine is running at the rate of 4380 rev/min.
Answer in units of m/s.


Homework Equations



Vmax=Aw

The Attempt at a Solution


I attempted to take the Amplitude (.0437 m) and multiply it by the angular frequency. I first converted it into revolutions per second and then divided 2pi by the answer I got.
 
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Hello Bearbull,w=2pif.
 
And f=1/T and T=4380 rev/min= 73 rev/s?
 
Got it wrong again,

Vmax=(.0437m)(2pi(1/73rev/s))
 
f=4380r/min=4380/60 revs/second=73r/s
 
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Bearbull24.5 said:
And f=1/T and T=4380 rev/min= 73 rev/s?

This part is wrong. Remember 1 rev = 2pi.
So you multiply by 2pi, and then 1 min = 60 seconds. So you divide by 60 seconds. I did not get 73 rev/s. I got another number.
 
w=2pitimes73
 
I did 2pi*73 rev/s and then multiplied it by my amplitude (.0437 m). Got it wrong.
 
Bearbull24.5 said:
I did 2pi*73 rev/s and then multiplied it by my amplitude (.0437 m). Got it wrong.

What answer did you get and what should the answer be?
 
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Dadface said:
What answer did you get and what should the answer be?

I got 20.043989 and I have no idea what the correct answer is supposed to be. I only have one more chance to get it correct
 
  • #11
so you carried out the following calculation:
2 times 3.142(pi)times73times 0.0473.I picked up my calculator and did it and got an answer close to yours but not the same.Try again and report back here before you submit your answer.
 
  • #12
Haha. Had the numbers mixed up. Thanks
 
  • #13
Bearbull24.5 said:
Haha. Had the numbers mixed up. Thanks

I'm always doing that:smile:
 

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