MHB How Fast Does the Area of a Triangle Change with Increasing Angle?

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The discussion focuses on determining the rate at which the area of a triangle changes as the angle between two fixed sides increases. Given two sides of lengths 4 m and 5 m, and an angle increasing at 0.06 rad/s, the area formula used is A = (1/2) * base * height, specifically A = (4 * 5 * sin(θ))/2. When the angle θ is π/3, the third side is calculated as √21 using the law of cosines. The derivative of the area with respect to time is derived, leading to confusion about whether to include the constant side lengths in the differentiation. Ultimately, the correct approach confirms that the side lengths remain factors in the area calculation, leading to a rate of area increase of 0.3 m²/s.
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Two sides of a triangle are 4 m and 5 m in length and the angle between them is increasing at a rate of 0.06 rad/s. Find the rate at which the area of the triangle is increasing when the angle between the sides of fixed length is $$\pi/3$$

When the angle is $$pi/3$$, the third side is equal to : $$\sqrt{21}$$ based on the law of cosines.I'm not sure which formula for Area I should use to figure this problem out.
 
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tmt said:
Two sides of a triangle are 4 m and 5 m in length and the angle between them is increasing at a rate of 0.06 rad/s. Find the rate at which the area of the triangle is increasing when the angle between the sides of fixed length is $$\pi/3$$

When the angle is $$pi/3$$, the third side is equal to : $$\sqrt{21}$$ based on the law of cosines.I'm not sure which formula for Area I should use to figure this problem out.

Hi tmt, :)

You could use derivatives to solve this question. Suppose the angle between the two given sides is $\theta$. Then the area of the triangle is given by,

\[A=\frac{4\times 5\times \sin\theta}{2}\]

You have to find $\frac{dA}{dt}$ when $\theta=\frac{\pi}{3}$. Try to do it from here. :)
 
Sudharaka said:
Hi tmt, :)

You could use derivatives to solve this question. Suppose the angle between the two given sides is $\theta$. Then the area of the triangle is given by,

\[A=\frac{4\times 5\times \sin\theta}{2}\]

You have to find $\frac{dA}{d\theta}$ when $\theta=\frac{\pi}{3}$. Try to do it from here. :)

\[A=\frac{4\times 5\times \sin\theta}{2}\]So I differentiate this with respect to time in seconds.

$\d{A}{t} = \frac{1}{2} \cos\theta \d{\theta}{t}$

I plug this in:

$\cos \pi / 2 = 1/2$

and I know that

\d{\theta}{t} = 0.06 radians/second

so

$\d{A}{t} = 0.06/ 4 m^2 / second$

or

0.015 squared/ second, but the answer in the text is 0.3 metres squared a second?
 
tmt said:
$\d{A}{t} = \frac{1}{2} \cos\theta \d{\theta}{t}$

Double check this one. You've left out the side lengths from your derivative
 
SamJohannes said:
Double check this one. You've left out the side lengths from your derivative

The side length are constant so when they are differentiated they go to 0, don't they?
 
tmt said:
The side length are constant so when they are differentiated they go to 0, don't they?

Not when they are factors...recall:

$$\d{}{x}\left(k\cdot f(x)\right)=k\cdot\d{}{x}\left(f(x)\right)$$