How Fast Does the Train Accelerate to Outpace the Car?

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving a train and a car, where the train accelerates from rest while the car moves at a constant speed. The car reaches the front of the train in 12 seconds, but the train continues to accelerate and outpaces the car by 32 seconds. The calculations show that the car's speed is approximately 12.16 m/s and the train's acceleration is about 0.53 m/s². Participants suggest corrections to the initial solution, emphasizing the need to consider distances traveled over the entire time frame rather than in segments. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately applying kinematic equations to solve the problem.
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Homework Statement


A 108 m long train starts from rest (at t = 0) and accelerates uniformly. At the same time (at t = 0), a car moving with constant speed in the same direction reaches the back end of the train. At t = 12 s the car reaches the front of the train. However, the train continues to speed up and pulls ahead of the car. At t = 32 s, the car is left behind the train. Determine,
a. the car’s speed
b. the trains acceleration



The Attempt at a Solution


When the car reached the front of the train it moved a distance of x+108 where x is the distance covered by the train

from x=Vot+0.5at^2

x=0.5at^2 =0.5*a*12^2 =72a

the distance covered by the car in the first 12 seconds is 72a+108

that means its speed is
v=x/t = (72a+108)/12 =6a+9

by 32 seconds the car has moved a distance of

x=vt
=(6a+9) *(32-12) =20(6a+9)=120a+180

the train covered this distance + 108 meters:
distance covered by the train : 120a+180+108 =120a+288

the distance covered by the train is also

V+0.5a*20^2+108

Where V= 72a

Therefore : 72a+0.5a*20^2+108=120a+288

Solving for a we get

a=0.5263 m/s^2

therefore V_c =12.1578 m/s


Not really sure about this solution can anyone correct me :smile:
 
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theultimate6 said:

Homework Statement


A 108 m long train starts from rest (at t = 0) and accelerates uniformly. At the same time (at t = 0), a car moving with constant speed in the same direction reaches the back end of the train. At t = 12 s the car reaches the front of the train. However, the train continues to speed up and pulls ahead of the car. At t = 32 s, the car is left behind the train. Determine,
a. the car’s speed
b. the train's acceleration

The Attempt at a Solution


When the car reached the front of the train it moved a distance of x+108 where x is the distance covered by the train

from \ \ x=V_0 t+0.5at^2
x=0.5at^2 =0.5*a*12^2 =72athe distance covered by the car in the first 12 seconds is 72a+108\ .
That means its speed is v=x/t = (72a+108)/12 =6a+9\ .

What you have below occurs during the time from the 12 second mark to the 32 second mark.
by 32 seconds the car has moved a distance of x=vt=(6a+9) *(32-12) =20(6a+9)=120a+180the train covered this distance + 108 meters:
distance covered by the train : 120a+180+108 =120a+288the distance covered by the train is also
V+0.5a*20^2+108
You should not have added the 108 in the above equation.

What you have for the following velocity is actually the distance the train traveled during the first 12 seconds.

The train's velocity at the 12 second mark is the same as the car's velocity (Do you know why?) and is given by \ \ V=6a+9\ .
Where V= 72a
Therefore : 72a+0.5a*20^2+108=120a+288
Solving for a we get a=0.5263 m/s^2
therefore V_c =12.1578 m/s
Not really sure about this solution can anyone correct me :smile:
Instead of considering the situation from the 12 second mark to the 32 second mark, you could have ised the fact that from the 0 second mark to the 32 second mark, both the car and train travel the same distance.
 
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