How Do You Convert Newtons to Watts for a Maglev Train Acceleration?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a maglev train car, its acceleration, and the conversion of force measured in Newtons to power measured in Watts. Participants are examining the relationship between force, work, and power in the context of the train's motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are analyzing the calculations related to force and questioning the assumptions made about the time and distance involved in the train's acceleration. There is a focus on the distinction between force and power, and the necessity of additional information to compute work or power accurately.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising critical questions about the problem's setup and the assumptions made. Some guidance has been offered regarding the differences between force and power, and the need for more information to proceed with the calculations.

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There are indications that the problem statement may be incomplete, particularly regarding the time frame for the force application and the distance over which the work is done. Participants are also noting the implications of a system not experiencing external forces.

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Homework Statement


Imagine a maglev train car on a track. The train car weighs 1000 kilograms and travels at 10 meters per second. Without any external force, the train car slows down to 5 meters per second in 10 seconds. How much force does it take to return the train car to traveling at 10 meters per second? Convert that force to watts.

Homework Equations


F=MA
A = (vf -vi)/t
W = (N*m)/s

The Attempt at a Solution



· F = M*A

· F = (1,000 kg)*((10 m/s – 5 m/s)/10 s)

· F = 5,000 kgm/s^2

· F = 5,000 Newtons

· Watt = (N*m)/s

· W = (5,000N * 5m)/10s

· W = 2,500
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Jon Winter said:
Without any external force, the train car slows down to 5 meters per second in 10 seconds
Okay, so there must be some kind of "internal" force that makes this happen. Just an observation-- this information is irrelevant to the problem.

How much force does it take to return the train car to traveling at 10 meters per second?
Are you sure you have transcribed the original question completely? Clearly an element of time is needed to determine this.
 
Jon Winter said:
F = (1,000 kg)*((10 m/s – 5 m/s)/10 s)
You seem to have assumed the force is applied for 10s. That is not mentioned in your problem statement. Did you leave it out?
Jon Winter said:
W = (5,000N * 5m)/10s
Where does the distance of 5m come from?
 
Someone needs to point out that force and power are different physical quantities and that you cannot convert one to the other. What you can do is compute the work a particular force does or the power it is putting into a system. As others have noted, the problem statement is missing information to do that.

Furthermore, a system on which no external force acts does not accelerate by definition.
 
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Orodruin said:
Furthermore, a system on which no external force acts does not accelerate by definition.
Apologies for my poor choice of words: "internal force".
 
What seems to be missing is the implication that the train speeds back to 10 m/s in 10 sec.
Work (J) = Change in KE = Force * Distance
Power (Watts) = Work / time
 

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