How Fast Must a Pion Travel to Cover 9 Meters Before Decaying?

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The problem involves determining the speed at which a pion must travel to cover a distance of 9 meters before decaying, considering its average lifetime at rest. The context is rooted in concepts of special relativity, particularly time dilation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the pion's decay time and its speed, with one participant initially calculating a speed without considering time dilation. Questions arise regarding the appropriate equations and reference frames involved in the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring the necessary equations and concepts related to time dilation. One participant has indicated progress in understanding the problem, suggesting that guidance has been provided, although no consensus or final solution has been reached.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding reference frames, specifically whether the time dilation is being considered from the pion's frame or a stationary observer's frame. The average lifetime of the pion at rest is also a key factor in the discussion.

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How fast must a pion be moving, on average, to travel 9.0 m before it decays? The average lifetime, at rest, is 2.60 ✕ 10-8 s. (Answer in terms of c)

I'm not exactly sure what equations I have to use but I believe it relates to time dilation.


I originally didn't realize it was a time dilation problem and calculated that the speed would be .8666c but since it relates to time dilation I am not sure how to go about solving it.

Thank you for your help.
 
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Herjo345 said:
How fast must a pion be moving, on average, to travel 9.0 m before it decays? The average lifetime, at rest, is 2.60 ✕ 10-8 s. (Answer in terms of c)

I'm not exactly sure what equations I have to use but I believe it relates to time dilation.I originally didn't realize it was a time dilation problem and calculated that the speed would be .8666c but since it relates to time dilation I am not sure how to go about solving it.

Thank you for your help.
You have a bit of algebra ahead of you. But let's just set up the equations first.

If \tau is the time it takes the pion to decay in it's own frame of reference (\tau = 2.60 × 10-8 s), what is t, the amount of time it takes to decay in your stationary frame of reference?

(you can answer this intermediate result in terms of c and v; or in terms of \gamma, your pick for now :wink:).
 
I could use the equation (ΔT/Δt)=√(1-(v/c)^2) but I'm still a little unsure on the reference frames. Is the first reference from from the pion and the second from a stationary observer?
 
I figured it out, thank you for your help.
 

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