How harming will be this boxing or street boxing?

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The discussion revolves around the potential risks and consequences of participating in informal boxing matches, particularly focusing on brain damage and safety concerns. Participants share their experiences and opinions regarding the frequency and conditions under which such fights occur, as well as the implications for future careers in physics or engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the potential for brain damage from boxing, questioning how much damage could occur from fights held once a month.
  • Another participant suggests that if one does not get hit, there should be no brain damage, but later emphasizes the importance of organized and safe conditions for such fights.
  • Some participants recommend using protective gear, such as headgear and mouthguards, while noting that headgear may not prevent brain damage.
  • There are discussions about the risks of injuries during sparring and matches, with some arguing that one can learn to fight effectively without sustaining serious injuries.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential legal implications of causing harm to an opponent in unsanctioned fights.
  • One participant reflects on their past experiences with boxing and the injuries they sustained, suggesting that even a single fight could lead to serious consequences.
  • Another participant mentions that the severity of brain damage may correlate with the frequency of fights and the weight class of the boxers involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with some emphasizing the risks associated with boxing while others downplay the dangers. There is no consensus on the safety of informal boxing matches or the extent of potential brain damage.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of safety measures and organized events, but there are unresolved questions about the actual risks involved and the long-term effects of participating in such fights.

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Hello =). Well I've been training for 5 months, now i wana test my abilities, in my high school, guys make fights of 3 minutes, with gloves and only boxing(boxing technique is what I've been training). I am physicaly feet, i have devastating punching power, so the question will be, how much brain damage will be to do this fights once in a month. I wana beocme a physicist or a an engineer so this year will be the last i do this kind of stuff.
 
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This sounds like an incredibly bad idea
 
AlexES16 said:
Hello =). Well I've been training for 5 months, now i wana test my abilities, in my high school, guys make fights of 3 minutes, with gloves and only boxing(boxing technique is what I've been training). I am physicaly feet, i have devastating punching power, so the question will be, how much brain damage will be to do this fights once in a month. I wana beocme a physicist or a an engineer so this year will be the last i do this kind of stuff.

No brain damage If you don't get hit.:smile:
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I just realized that the fights are organized by "guys at high school". If the fights are not organized by someone competent. Like a professional trainer in a club with clear rules you should not do it.
 
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AlexES16 said:
Hello =). Well I've been training for 5 months, now i wana test my abilities, in my high school, guys make fights of 3 minutes, with gloves and only boxing(boxing technique is what I've been training). I am physicaly feet, i have devastating punching power, so the question will be, how much brain damage will be to do this fights once in a month. I wana beocme a physicist or a an engineer so this year will be the last i do this kind of stuff.

You really should http://store.titleboxing.com/headgear.html" . Oh and a mouth guard - you'll miss your teeth when they're gone!

If you don't have that kind of equipment, then you and your partner have to pull your punches (i.e., don't hit full force). Also, don't spar like this with beginners, it's a hard thing to learn and novices aren't good at it.
 
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lisab said:
You really should http://store.titleboxing.com/headgear.html" . Oh and a mouth guard - you'll miss your teeth when they're gone!

If you don't have that kind of equipment, then you and your partner have to pull your punches (i.e., don't hit full force). Also, don't spar like this with beginners, it's a hard thing to learn and novices aren't good at it.


Actually headgear just help fro bruises but not for the brain damage. Myabe if i only do it one in a year? 2 minutes of hits to the brain, how hard can it be, and I am not planing to loose.
 
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AlexES16 said:
Actually[,] headgear just help fro[for?] bruises but not for the brain damage. Myabe[maybe] if i[ I ] only do it one[once] in a year? 2 minutes of hits to the brain, how hard can it be[?], and im[I'm] not planing[planning] to loose [lose].


Perhaps it's too late already? :bugeye:
 
Andre said:
Perhaps it's too late already? :bugeye:

Hhahahaha yeah maybe, i practiced boxing 1.5 years ago and i suffered horrible hooks.
My first fight was with a guy with 2 years of boxing experience, i haded 0, maybe that's why i lived that in 3 weeks of suffering. Or it could be that my native lengauge is spanish and not english also i live in a 3rd world country xD.
 
This is an easy question to answer: when you're fourty, to you want your brain to look like that of a 90 year old alzheimers patient? If yes, then fight, if not, then maybe a day job would be wise.
 
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AlexES16 said:
Hhahahaha yeah maybe, i practiced boxing 1.5 years ago and i suffered horrible hooks.
My first fight was with a guy with 2 years of boxing experience, i haded 0, maybe that's why i lived that in 3 weeks of suffering. Or it could be that my native lengauge is spanish and not english also i live in a 3rd world country xD.

Andre is Dutch... meaning English is not his first language either. I would consider that for a time.
 
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AlexES16 said:
I wana beocme a physicist or a an engineer so this year will be the last i do this kind of stuff.

Inducing brain damage is not something you'd to do if you want to get into a field where you need to be using said brain for your career. You have nothing to gain and much to lose.
 
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When I think of "Physics" and "Boxing," I think ofhttp://www.conceptualphysics.com/pghewitt.shtml" .

Make of it what you will. I don't like the sport myself, but I also don't like to judge, and Paul Hewitt may just be the most important Physics educator of the last half-century.
 
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Being around martial arts for a lot of years now, where safety has always been addressed, I have still seen injuries during sparring and matches. There are organizations that only allow light contact and there are ones that go for the knockout. In my opinion, you can learn to become a very good fighter without having to get beat up or knock out someone.

Think what your unsanctioned event would be like if you should get in a good shot that killed your opponent. Just food for thought.
 
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dlgoff said:
Being around martial arts for a lot of years now, where safety has always been addressed, I have still seen injuries during sparring and matches. There are organizations that only allow light contact and there are ones that go for the knockout. In my opinion, you can learn to become a very good fighter without having to get beat up or knock out someone.

Think what your unsanctioned event would be like if you should get in a good shot that killed your opponent. Just food for thought.

Manslaughter that, like the "case of the eggshell skull" test case for young lawyers.
 
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AlexES16 said:
Hello =). Well I've been training for 5 months, now i wana test my abilities, in my high school, guys make fights of 3 minutes, with gloves and only boxing(boxing technique is what I've been training). I am physicaly feet, i have devastating punching power, so the question will be, how much brain damage will be to do this fights once in a month. I wana beocme a physicist or a an engineer so this year will be the last i do this kind of stuff.

Don't box while worrying about your brain.
 
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Gear300 said:
Don't box while worrying about your brain.

I spit cola when I read this (from a laugh). My keyboard hates you, but I love you for it! :)
 
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Alex: I do not think that it is necessarily that bad for you unless you are boxing frequently and taking several heavy blows to the head. I may be wrong but I believe it is usually in the upper weight classes that it starts to become a serious issue. Either way there is not really any way to know what will happen. You could wind up with a head injury in your very first fight.

Be very careful and consider your decision well.

IcedEcliptic said:
Andre is Dutch... meaning English is not his first language either. I would consider that for a time.

If I am not mistaken Andre is also older and has more experience with the language. He was perhaps just playfully chiding him. We do not generally tsk tsk over the english skills of people on this forum when it is their second language.
 
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TheStatutoryApe said:
Alex: I do not think that it is necessarily that bad for you unless you are boxing frequently and taking several heavy blows to the head. I may be wrong but I believe it is usually in the upper weight classes that it starts to become a serious issue. Either way there is not really any way to know what will happen. You could wind up with a head injury in your very first fight.

Be very careful and consider your decision well.



If I am not mistaken Andre is also older and has more experience with the language. He was perhaps just playfully chiding him. We do not generally tsk tsk over the english skills of people on this forum when it is their second language.

Well apart that i want to probe my skills, i do it to becouse i want to know if i am capable of defending the ones i love, imagine one day a guy wants to abuse or make feel bad my girl, also in my school you need to be kinda strong and guys think that i am tough guy.
 
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TheStatutoryApe said:
Alex: I do not think that it is necessarily that bad for you unless you are boxing frequently and taking several heavy blows to the head. I may be wrong but I believe it is usually in the upper weight classes that it starts to become a serious issue. Either way there is not really any way to know what will happen. You could wind up with a head injury in your very first fight.

Be very careful and consider your decision well.
If I am not mistaken Andre is also older and has more experience with the language. He was perhaps just playfully chiding him. We do not generally tsk tsk over the english skills of people on this forum when it is their second language.

It is my second language as well... and I should add, my native tongue is not so related to English as romance languages such as Spanish.

AlexES16: Tough men do not fight for the love of it, and defense of others is rarely a fist-fight. A scrawny girl with great aim could put you on the ground before you could throw a punch. Violence is not the answer to make one safe, and if you want to be tough that way, there are martial arts, and practical systems such as Krav Maga. I am sorry that you find yourself in a place where pressure is placed to make a man fight for image. Violence should be a last resort, in my view, it takes a toll on the person dealing violence as well as the one receiving it.
 
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Imagine if someone want to hurt or bother your girl. I maybe be dating this girl that i know and i just want to be ready to protect her, especially here in my country that things are violent.
 
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IcedEcliptic said:
It is my second language as well...

Dude, so yeah i have difficulties witht the lengauge
What do you want?'
To say that i am dumb or what?
Whats your problem men?¿
 
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AlexES16 said:
Dude, so yeah i have difficulties witht the lengauge
What do you want?'
To say that i am dumb or what?
Whats your problem men?¿

Eh? No I am just teasing a bit. Your post is about brain damage, it is a bit funny. I'm sorry if this offends you. I do not think a person who thinks about their brain's health can be very dumb you know. They do not become physicists as you wish to be either. You must ask yourself: can you learn to defend your girl, yourself, family, and property without testing yourself in a full fight? I say again of Krav Maga, this is practical and deadly, but you do not have to take strong blows to the head. You learn to carry yourself in a way that keeps others thinking two times before attacking you. It is good to learn how to resolve conflicts without violence, but I understand that is not always possible.
 
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Alejandro, I think you worry too much for being a kid... Have fun, you are not yet in college, much less grad school. High School years and less are about fun rather than hard work.
 
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IcedEcliptic said:
Eh? No I am just teasing a bit. Your post is about brain damage, it is a bit funny. I'm sorry if this offends you. I do not think a person who thinks about their brain's health can be very dumb you know. They do not become physicists as you wish to be either. You must ask yourself: can you learn to defend your girl, yourself, family, and property without testing yourself in a full fight? I say again of Krav Maga, this is practical and deadly, but you do not have to take strong blows to the head. You learn to carry yourself in a way that keeps others thinking two times before attacking you. It is good to learn how to resolve conflicts without violence, but I understand that is not always possible.

I agree that marital arts is the way to go if self-defense is your goal, Alex. I thought from your OP that you were just boxing for the fun and sport of it. Boxing won't teach you how to street fight.
 
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lisab said:
I agree that marital arts is the way to go if self-defense is your goal, Alex. I thought from your OP that you were just boxing for the fun and sport of it. Boxing won't teach you how to street fight.
Exactly! Same thing I thought. :mad:
 
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lisab said:
I agree that marital arts is the way to go if self-defense is your goal, Alex. I thought from your OP that you were just boxing for the fun and sport of it. Boxing won't teach you how to street fight.
Want to learn how to street fight? There are no rules, and things are often over very quickly. Also, imbalances in weight, reach, etc can be demolished by a smaller more determined opponent.
 
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lisab said:
I agree that marital arts is the way to go if self-defense is your goal, Alex. I thought from your OP that you were just boxing for the fun and sport of it. Boxing won't teach you how to street fight.


Actually I've practiced karate and it totally failed, they teach things like high kicks, katas and those things don't work in the street, so that's why i learned to box and it kinda destroys other becouse of its simplicity and brutality. Maybe Krav Maga more practical.
 
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Ok the thing is this, is just a 2 minute figth that I am going to do, is with boxing gloves, and the fights we do are very strict. Will 2 minutes ruin my life?
 
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AlexES16 said:
Hello =). Well I've been training for 5 months, now i wana test my abilities, in my high school, guys make fights of 3 minutes, with gloves and only boxing(boxing technique is what I've been training). I am physicaly feet, i have devastating punching power, so the question will be, how much brain damage will be to do this fights once in a month. I wana beocme a physicist or a an engineer so this year will be the last i do this kind of stuff.

I wouldn't suggest doing these boxing matches, there could be injuries that would put you at risk of a law suit. I would recommend you join a gym in your area if you truly want to box, the gym's insurance will cover you in the event of your opponent being seriously hurt or dying as a result of your actions. There are chances that you getting hit in the head could cause significant brain damage or memory loss, always wear head gear when you box and make sure that you wear large enough gloves to lessen the chance of brain damage.
Whatever you decide, do it safely and don't strive to hurt the opponent to the point where the boxing becomes a grudge fight. Think your actions over and make a decision you feel is right.
 
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Actually i remeber that the last night there was an event in my school, and there was this beutifull girl(for me the most beutifull in my school) and then i realized that some bad dudes were taking pictures of her back(you know what i mean, i don't if that word is forbiden in the forum) and i mean she is very, in don't know like very righteous and good girl, and i felt like wana protect her and beat up those bad dudes. And for things like that i wana start beating up guys I am my school. Also a women point of view will help.
 

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