How has the Bush presidency affected your political views?

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The forum discussion centers on the profound disillusionment with the political landscape following the presidencies of George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush. Participants express feelings of betrayal, particularly from those who supported Bush, leading to a rejection of traditional political affiliations and a disdain for both major parties. Key topics include the impact of the Patriot Act, the Iraq War, and the perception of corruption and incompetence within the Bush administration. The discussion also highlights the emergence of alternative political figures, such as Kinky Friedman, as potential solutions to the current political climate.

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This discussion is beneficial for political analysts, historians, and individuals interested in understanding the evolution of American political views post-Bush presidencies. It is particularly relevant for those examining the dynamics of party loyalty and the rise of alternative political movements.

  • #61
pattylou said:
It has taken the worst natural disaster in our country's history to make him change his course, and only slightly at that.

I'm not trying to subvert the point you made or anything, but you have to know by now that I'm a stickler for historically inaccurate hyperbole. The San Francisco earthquake of 1906 was a greater natural disaster than Katrina. Deaths are estimated at 3000-6000, 300,000 people were left homeless (75% of the city's population), not to mention that martial law and a sunset curfew were instituted on those who remained in the city. The government also greatly underreported the death toll to avoid the devaluation of real estate.
 
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  • #62
What the Bush administration has done to MY political consciousness is to make me even more furious than I wzs at the east coast pinks who have so thoroughly come to dominate the party and turn it into a sure loser even against the likes of Bush. In the old days Midwesterners like Truman and west coasters like Scoop Jackson gave us a party that could beat the GOP nine times out of ten. I don't agree that the change has been due to the flow of historical change. I think it's been all those red diaper babies grown up to dominate the part machinery.
 
  • #63
Informal Logic said:
Have you seen statistics for crime in the US, including child abuse, molestation, and porn? What does that say about our society?

I guess it says that the segment of our population engaging in these activities in barbarian and uncivilized.
 
  • #64
selfAdjoint said:
What the Bush administration has done to MY political consciousness is to make me even more furious than I wzs at the east coast pinks who have so thoroughly come to dominate the party and turn it into a sure loser even against the likes of Bush. In the old days Midwesterners like Truman and west coasters like Scoop Jackson gave us a party that could beat the GOP nine times out of ten. I don't agree that the change has been due to the flow of historical change. I think it's been all those red diaper babies grown up to dominate the part machinery.

Who is Scoop Jackson? The man I know by that name is a sports writer.
 
  • #65
loseyourname said:
I'm not trying to subvert the point you made or anything, but you have to know by now that I'm a stickler for historically inaccurate hyperbole. The San Francisco earthquake of 1906 was a greater natural disaster than Katrina. Deaths are estimated at 3000-6000, 300,000 people were left homeless (75% of the city's population), not to mention that martial law and a sunset curfew were instituted on those who remained in the city. The government also greatly underreported the death toll to avoid the devaluation of real estate.
OKay. I claimed what I had read and haven't done any comparative analysis myself.

Was Katrina worse in terms of cost?
 
  • #66
pattylou said:
OKay. I claimed what I had read and haven't done any comparative analysis myself.

Was Katrina worse in terms of cost?

Beats me. For one, we don't know exactly how much repairs will cost. Second, property value was much lower then than now. San Francisco was pretty much completely decimated, though. Most of what didn't collapse in the quake burned down during the ensuing firestorms.
 
  • #67
I was a republican supporter

I even voted for Bush the first time out. Then came the war in Iraq which I thought was OK at first, but then the republican agenda began to move forward and I realized that these people were all crooks.
 
  • #68
loseyourname said:
Now confronted with Bush's inability to even read articulately a speech written for him, will we see professional speakers giving speeches for the president? (Okay, I say this in jest.)
:smile:

I would prefer politicians to write their own speeches. If one cannot write (or read in Bush's case) and communicate clearly with the public, one does not deserve to be put in a position of authority.

I prefer to extemporize or speak for myself. I don't need anyone else to explain my thoughts or ideas. Then again, sometimes I am misunderstood, and this can be frustrating - so bear with me.

loseyourname said:
I was watching C-Span earlier and saw, for the first time, Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas giving a speech at the National Press Club, and I have to say I was very impressed. He was eloquent, charming, personable, and even heads a rock band. He may have alluded to a run at the presidency in '08 (the 'joke' he made about it was somewhat ambiguous).
I am a big fan of the National Press Club and Commonwealth Club. I listen quite often to many interesting speeches.

http://npc.press.org/

http://www.commonwealthclub.org/

I value being able to hear people in their own words, even if I do not agree with them. I heard Bill Frist the other day. I agreed with some of his points, and disagreed with others - but at least I know first hand his positions.
 
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  • #70
Jeez here I was going to made a Joke about how I couldn't have been 'Fur' him, cause I'm A Freakin Rabbit, need the Coat for Myself.
 

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