How High Do Colliding Masses Reach in a Frictionless Bowl?

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving two masses, m1 and m2, in a frictionless spherical bowl. Mass m1 starts at a height of h = ½ R and collides elastically with mass m2, which is three times its mass. The key equations derived include conservation of energy and momentum, leading to expressions for the heights reached by both masses after the collision. The final heights are determined using the relationships between their velocities and gravitational potential energy.

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A small mass m1 slides in a completely frictionless spherical bowl. m1 starts at rest at height h = ½ R above the bottom of the bowl. When it reaches the bottom of the bowl it strikes a mass m2, where m2 = 3m1, in a completely elastic collision.

a)find height of mass 2 after colision

b)find height of mass 1 after colision

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m1g(.5R) = .5m1v1o2...v1o = (gR).5

m1v1o[/SUB = m1v1 + m2v2...m1v1o[/SUB = m1v1 + 3m1v2...(gR).5 = v1 + 3v2...
v1 = (gR).5 - 3v2
v2 = ((gR).5-v1)/3

a) .5m2v22 = m2gh... .5(((gR).5-v1)/3)2 = gh...hm_2 = (((gR).5-v1)/3)2 /2g

b).5m1v22 = m1gh... .5((gR)2-3v2)2 = gh...h = ((gR).5-3v2)2/2g)
 

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joemama69 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



m1g(.5R) = .5m1v1o2...v1o = (gR).5

m1v1o = m1v1 + m2v2...m1v1o = m1v1 + 3m1v2...(gR).5 = v1 + 3v2...
Okay so far. At this point you can use conservation of kinetic energy for the elastic collision, and get a second equation relating v1 and v2. From there, you can express v1 and v2 in terms of g and R.

v1 = (gR).5 - 3v2
v2 = ((gR).5-v1)/3

a) .5m2v22 = m2gh... .5(((gR).5-v1)/3)2 = gh...hm_2 = (((gR).5-v1)/3)2 /2g

b).5m1v22 = m1gh... .5((gR)2-3v2)2 = gh...h = ((gR).5-3v2)2/2g)
 

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