How is a spark created from scraping metal to start a fire?

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A spark is created by scraping a knife against metal due to the friction generated, which heats small particles of the metal until they become incandescent. This process involves the removal of metal particles that react with oxygen, potentially igniting tinder. The discussion clarifies that this phenomenon is not primarily electrostatic but rather a result of high friction and heat. The term "spark" can refer to both incandescent particles and electrical discharges, leading to some confusion. Understanding these mechanisms is essential for effective fire-starting techniques in the wild.
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On a fundamental level, can anyone explain how a spark is created from scraping a knife along a piece of metal as done by people who want to light fires 'in the wild'?
 
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Electrons are removed from the metal causing it to become charged, then a spark may occur even at such a low voltage because of the very small surface area at the edge of a knife.
 
LostConjugate said:
Electrons are removed from the metal causing it to become charged, then a spark may occur even at such a low voltage because of the very small surface area at the edge of a knife.

I'm not sure this is correct. From wikipedia on Flint: When struck against steel, a flint edge will produce sparks. The hard flint edge shaves off a particle of the steel that, heated by the friction, reacts with oxygen from the atmosphere and can ignite the proper tinder.

I think a similar effect is happening between a knife and metal. It generates high friction which produces "sparks".
 
Drakkith said:
I'm not sure this is correct. From wikipedia on Flint: When struck against steel, a flint edge will produce sparks. The hard flint edge shaves off a particle of the steel that, heated by the friction, reacts with oxygen from the atmosphere and can ignite the proper tinder.

I think a similar effect is happening between a knife and metal. It generates high friction which produces "sparks".

Yes, I think sparks are actually pieces of the metal heated by friction, and the temperature causes the metal embers to be incandescent.

I don't think it is an electrostatics phenomenon.
 
Thank you.
 
Then how can it be a spark?
 
"Spark" has (at least) two meanings.
One is a small incandescent particle.
If talking about a fire, "spark" means small incandescent particle (of carbon, usually).
The second meaning of "spark" refers to an electrical discharge.
 

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