How Is Entropy Calculated for a Multi-Energy Level System?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the entropy of a multi-energy level system of particles in thermal equilibrium at temperature T, where each particle can have energy levels of 0, epsilon, or 2 epsilon. The original poster expresses uncertainty regarding the application of the partition function in their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the entropy using the partition function and expresses doubt about their approach. They question the applicability of the partition function they used and whether they should consider the factorial term for multiple particles.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's concerns, with some suggesting that using the correct form of the partition function will lead to the right expression for entropy. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of using different forms of the partition function.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a mistake in their initial equations, indicating a lack of confidence in their understanding of the topic. There is a sense of urgency for feedback, as they seek validation of their approach and corrections to their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


A system of particles is in equilibrium at temperature T. Each particle may have energy 0, epsilon, or 2 epsilon. Find the entropy of the system.

Homework Equations



F=-\tau log(Z)

\sigma=-(\frac{\partial\sigma}{\partial\tau})|_{V}

The Attempt at a Solution



<br /> <br /> Z = 1+exp(\frac{-\epsilon}{\tau})+exp(\frac{-2\epsilon}{\tau})<br />

F=-\tau log(1+exp(\frac{-\epsilon}{\tau})+exp(\frac{-2\epsilon}{\tau}))

\sigma=-log(1+exp(\frac{-\epsilon}{\tau})+exp(\frac{-2\epsilon}{\tau}))-\tau\frac{[\epsilon\tau^{-2}exp(-\epsilon/\tau)+2\epsilon\tau^{-2}exp(-2\epsilon/\tau)]}{1+exp(\frac{-\epsilon}{\tau})+exp(\frac{-2\epsilon}{\tau})}

Hows that look? I'm really rusty with my thermal physics so even though this is not very complicated, I just have no confidence. One thing I was worried about was my partition function. When is the function I used applicable, and when do I need to use

Z_{N}=\frac{Z^{N}_{1}}{N!}?

As I type this I am becoming increasing doubtful that I used the right partition function. Thanks for reading!
 
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Is my question ill posed? Please if you read this say anything, say whatever you think even if you don't know.
 
Now I am feeling rather sure that all I need to do is replace my Z with Z^N and I have my answer. Any thoughts?
 
Anyone? Anything?

I just noticed a mistake in my first post, the second equation should be sigma=(partial F)/(partial tau). But if you can help me you probably knew that already...
 
Using Z = Z_1^N/N! , you should get the correct expression.
 

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