How Is Force Calculated on a Proton in a Magnetic Field?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force exerted on a proton moving in a magnetic field. The magnetic field is uniform and directed along the z-axis, while the proton's velocity is given in the x-y plane.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the cross product formula for force, questioning their calculation of the angle between the velocity vector and the magnetic field. Other participants suggest reconsidering the angle based on the three-dimensional nature of the vectors involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's reasoning, providing insights and suggestions for clarification. There is an ongoing exploration of the geometric interpretation of the vectors involved, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach yet.

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The original poster appears to be struggling with visualizing the three-dimensional relationships between the vectors, which may be affecting their calculations. There is an implication of needing to clarify the geometric setup to proceed correctly.

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[SOLVED] Force dealing with vectors

Homework Statement


A uniform magnetic field of magnitude 1.47 T acts in the positive z direction.
Find the magnitude of the force exerted by the field on a proton if the proton's velocity is <3Mm/s i + 3Mm/s j>. Answer in pN

Homework Equations


F=QV \times B

The Attempt at a Solution



Being a cross product, I thought that it would just take the sin of the velocity vector. Since it is going at the same speed in x and y, the angle I calculated was 45, so it is 135 from the direction of the field. So after doing all that calculation, I get .7056. Where am I doing this wrong?
 
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The magnetic field is in the z direction; the velocity is in the x-y plane. So the angle you need is the angle between the z direction and the xy plane. What do you get?
 
jimmyting said:
Since … the angle I calculated was 45, so it is 135 from the direction of the field.

Hi jimmyting! :smile:

Usually I'd recommend "draw a diagram"

but I guess that it's your diagram that's misled you.

You've got three arrows for, say v y and z, and you've correctly labelled the angles vy and yz as 45º and 90º. :smile:

And then you've just added them, because your diagram doesn't look three-dimensional.

hmm … take art classes … or see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_(graphical) :smile:
 
Haha, sadly Art isn't my forte, neither is music for that matter, but thank you guys for your help
 

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