How Is Heat Transferred in CH3OH Decomposition?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decomposition reaction of methanol (CH3OH) into carbon monoxide (CO) and hydrogen gas (H2). Participants explore various aspects of the reaction, including its thermodynamic properties, calculations related to heat transfer, and the stoichiometry of the products formed. The scope includes theoretical and mathematical reasoning related to enthalpy changes and heat transfer at constant pressure.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of "Change in heat=90.7," suggesting it lacks clarity regarding units (calories, joules, or kJ/mol).
  • Another participant proposes using the equation delta H = q/n to find the number of moles of CH3OH for part c, where q is the heat change.
  • There is a suggestion that for part c, the number of moles of CH3OH can be calculated by dividing the enthalpy change (18.5 kJ) by the heat change (90.7 kJ/mol).
  • For part d, a participant indicates that the same logic can be applied, emphasizing the relationship between the moles of CO and CH3OH in the reaction.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the heat change value and its implications for the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the heat change value or the calculations for parts c and d. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the correct approach to solving the problems.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the clarity of the heat change value and its units, which may affect the calculations. The discussion also highlights unresolved steps in determining the number of moles involved in the reaction.

Jenn
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THe question is :

Given the reaction

CH3OH goes to CO + 2H2 Change in heat=90.7
a)endothermic or exothermic?
b)Calculate amount of heat transferred when 45 g. of CH3OH id decomposed by this reaction at constant pressure.
c)For a given sample of CH3OH the enthalpy change on reaction is 18.5kJ. How many grams of hydrogen gas are produced?
d)What is the value of delta H for the reverse of the previous reaction? How many kJ of heat are released when 27 g of CO reacts completely with H2 to form CH3OH at constant pressure?

I can do a and b. I am stuck on c and d. I know for c I need to determine the amount of moles of CH3OH involved in the reaction but am stumped at how to do that.

Same with d. I think I need to determine the amount of CO moles then multipy by the heat involved per mole of the CO from the given reaction. Can't seem to be able to do it though. I know what needs to be done but can't do it!
 
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This doesn't mean anything: "Change in heat=90.7"
 
enthalpy

delta + 90.7 is what it reads in the question
 
For part c could you use the eqation: delta H = q/n
to find the number of moles used where q is the heat change?

Hope this helps but I am not sure if it will!
 
Jenn said:
delta + 90.7 is what it reads in the question

'90.7' what? Calories? Joules? Perhaps this is molar enthalpy in kJ/mol?

If so, 'c' can be related to this (in moles) by dividing 18.5 kJ by 90.7 kJ/mol to get # of moles of CH3OH.

for 'd' you can use the same logic.
Hint: CH3OH goes to CO + 2H2 means:

CH3OH + 90.7 kJ ------> CO + 2H2

Notice the relationship to the number of moles of CO and CH3OH?
 
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