How is Linear Dependence Demonstrated in the Subspace of $\mathbb{Z}_2^3$?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of linear dependence and independence within the context of a subspace of $\mathbb{Z}_2^3$. Participants are examining a set of vectors and their implications for the dimension of the subspace.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the definition of linear dependence and independence, questioning how the presence of the zero vector affects the dimension. They discuss the relationships between the vectors and whether certain combinations yield non-trivial solutions.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of the vectors and their linear relationships. Some guidance has been offered regarding the elimination of dependent vectors to determine the dimension of the subspace, but there is no explicit consensus on the final dimension.

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There is a mention of the field having only two elements, which influences the calculations and interpretations of linear combinations. Participants are navigating the implications of this characteristic on their conclusions about the dimension of the subspace.

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HI. Okay
Consider
<br /> \[\left(\begin{array}{c}<br /> 0\\<br /> 0\\<br /> 0\end{array}\right)\] ,<br /> <br /> \[\left(\begin{array}{c}<br /> 1\\<br /> 1\\<br /> 0\end{array}\right)\] ,<br /> <br /> \[\left(\begin{array}{c}<br /> 1\\<br /> 0\\<br /> 1\end{array}\right)\] ,<br /> <br /> \[\left(\begin{array}{c}<br /> 0\\<br /> 1\\<br /> 1\end{array}\right)\] as a subspace of \mathbb{Z}_{2}^{3}<br /> <br />
In my notes I've written that this is a 2 dimensional subspace. How?
As far as I can see they are all linealry dependent vectors as if you add 1 of each of them you get back to the zero vector. No?
 
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Firstly note that the zero vector (the first one) doesn't factor into the dimension of the subspace. Just look at the other 3 vectors. Note that any set of vectors containing the zero vector is necessarily linearly dependent.

What happens if you add the 2nd vector to the 3rd one? After considering this, ask yourself if it's possible to express each of the remaining (non-zero) vectors in terms of the others.

And what do you mean by "adding of each of them"? Doing so only shows that the 4 vectors are linearly dependent, but doesn't help much in showing that dim=2.
 
A set of vectors is linearly independent if and only if the only sum a_1v_1+ a_2v_2+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ \a_nv_n= 0 is if a_1= a_2= \cdot\cdot\cdot= a_n= 0. Obviously you can immediately drop the 0 vector, but you need to look at a_1(1, 1, 0)+ a_2(1, 0, 1)+ a_3(0, 1, 1)= (a_1+ a_2, a_1+ a_3, a_2+ a_3)= (0, 0, 0).
In other words, a_1+ a_2= 0, a_1+ a_3= 0, a_2+ a_3= 0 has the obvious (trivial) solution a_1= a_2= a_3= 0. Does it have any other, non-trivial, solutions?
 
yes a_1 = a_2 = a_3 = 1 is also a solution giving linear independence. So if the o vector doesn't contribut to dimension then as the other 3 vectors are linearly dependent, their span is a 1-dimensional subspace as opposed to a 2-dimensional one?
 
latentcorpse said:
yes a_1 = a_2 = a_3 = 1 is also a solution giving linear independence. So if the o vector doesn't contribut to dimension then as the other 3 vectors are linearly dependent, their span is a 1-dimensional subspace as opposed to a 2-dimensional one?

As Halls already elaborated in detail, what you ought to do is look if the given vectors are linearly dependent or independent by considering the dependence relation, which Halls perfectly well stated. Now if W is the subspace that is spanned by the given vectors, then in order to be able to find dim(W) we shall eliminate all dependent vectors in the set. That is we shall take only those that are linearly independent. And as far as i can see, the three last vectors, are all lin. independent, which would make dim(W)=3 insdead of 2.
 
sutupidmath said:
As Halls already elaborated in detail, what you ought to do is look if the given vectors are linearly dependent or independent by considering the dependence relation, which Halls perfectly well stated. Now if W is the subspace that is spanned by the given vectors, then in order to be able to find dim(W) we shall eliminate all dependent vectors in the set. That is we shall take only those that are linearly independent. And as far as i can see, the three last vectors, are all lin. independent, which would make dim(W)=3 insdead of 2.
Remember that the field has only 2 elements 1 and 0, so that means that 1 is its own additive inverse. So adding vectors 2 and 3 gives 4 so dim=2.
 
Defennder said:
Remember that the field has only 2 elements 1 and 0,

Hmm, i didn't see this. Well, yeah, then like you said, dim(W) would be 2.
 

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