Is S a Subspace of $\mathbb{R}^n$ Defined by Linear Combinations of Vectors?

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The discussion revolves around whether the set S, defined as all vectors in $\mathbb{R}^n$ that can be expressed as linear combinations of the form $k_1 \vec{u} + k_2 \vec{v} + 3 \vec{w}$, constitutes a subspace of $\mathbb{R}^n$. Participants explore the implications of the inclusion of the vector $\vec{w}$ in the linear combination.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the validity of forming linear combinations of vectors in S and question whether the resulting vectors maintain the required form. There is an examination of the conditions under which the zero vector is included in the set and the implications of $\vec{w}$ being linearly dependent or independent from $\vec{u}$ and $\vec{v}$.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants offering insights into the conditions that affect the structure of S. Some guidance has been provided regarding the geometric interpretation of the problem, particularly concerning the relationship between $\vec{w}$ and the span of $\vec{u}$ and $\vec{v}$.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the inclusion of the zero vector and the linear dependence of $\vec{w}$ on $\vec{u}$ and $\vec{v}$ are critical factors in determining whether S is a subspace. The discussion acknowledges the need to consider multiple cases based on these relationships.

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Let \vec{u},\vec{v},\vec{w} be fixed vectors in Rn. Define S to be the set of all vectors in Rn which are linear combinations of the form k_1 \vec{u}+k_2 \vec{v}+3 \vec{w}, where k_1,k_2 \in R. Is S a subspace of Rn?

Im a little stuck with this one. I've tried defining two vectors, \vec{x},\vec{y} \in S and then forming a linear combination of the two, to get:

<br /> a\overrightarrow x + b\overrightarrow y = (ak_1 + bc_1 )\overrightarrow u + (ak_2 + bc_2 )\overrightarrow v + (3a + 3b)\overrightarrow w <br />

Where:

<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> \overrightarrow x = k_1 \overrightarrow u + k_2 \overrightarrow v + 3\overrightarrow w \\ <br /> \overrightarrow y = c_1 \overrightarrow u + c_2 \overrightarrow v + 3\overrightarrow w \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

Thats where I am lost; I am not even sure if I've taken the right approach. From this i can see that the linear combination of vectors x and y results in an expression containing linear combinations of vectors u and v, but its the w vector that's causing me problems.

Any hints are greatly appreciated :smile:

Thanks,
Dan.
 
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Why is it causing problems? Is the result of adding those two vectors together in the given set?
 
n_bourbaki said:
Why is it causing problems? Is the result of adding those two vectors together in the given set?

Well i would be inclined to say no since the linear combination of x and y is not explicitly of the same form as the vectors in S, but i didnt think it was as simple as that.
 
When can you make it of the same form? When can't you make it of the same form?
 
n_bourbaki said:
When can you make it of the same form? When can't you make it of the same form?

Well if a+b=1 then it will be of the same form. Is that what you are getting at?
 
No, since we have to do this for all a and b.

It may help you to think about whether the 0 vector is in the set or not.
 
n_bourbaki said:
When can you make it of the same form? When can't you make it of the same form?

n_bourbaki said:
No, since we have to do this for all a and b.

It may help you to think about whether the 0 vector is in the set or not.

Well if w was the zero vector itself, then yes the zero vector is in the set (k1,k2=0). It is also in the set when w is linearly dependent on u and v?

Hmm alright if w is linearly dependent on u and v, then the expression CAN be written in the form required. I could write the (3a+3b)w=Kw (K=3a+3b) part as 3w + (K-3)w, and then write the w in terms of u and v, which would put it in the correct form.

If it is linearly independent, then would i be correct to say that it is not in the set?

So is that what you meant? There are two cases for this question?
 
Yes there are two cases. What is your geometric visualisation for this question? If you think about what that set describes, then it is clear that it is a subspace if and only if w is in the plane spanned by u and v.

What is the set? It is the plane spanned by u and v translated by 3w. This can only be a plane through the origin if 3w (equivalently w) is in the span of u and v
 

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