How Is Tension Calculated in a Harpsichord String?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in a harpsichord string, given its length, linear mass density, and fundamental frequency. The problem involves concepts from wave mechanics and tension in strings.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between wave speed, tension, and linear mass density. There are attempts to convert units and clarify the correct values for calculations. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of frequency as velocity and the conversion of mass density units.

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A harpsichord string of length 1.60 m and linear mass density 25.0 mg/m vibrates at a (fundamental) frequency of 450 Hz.

(a) What is the speed of the transverse string waves?
I did 450 x 2(1.60) = 1440 m/s which is correct.

(b) It asks for the tension.
I tried it but am not getting the right answer.
I used
v = square root of (F / (m/L)) where v = 450 Hz, and m/L is 25000 kg/m
So 1440 = squre root of (F/25000)
F = 82.8 N which is incorrect.
Not sure what I am doing wrong.

Thanks
 
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kbyws37 said:
A harpsichord string of length 1.60 m and linear mass density 25.0 mg/m vibrates at a (fundamental) frequency of 450 Hz.

(a) What is the speed of the transverse string waves?
I did 450 x 2(1.60) = 1440 m/s which is correct.

(b) It asks for the tension.
I tried it but am not getting the right answer.
I used
v = square root of (F / (m/L)) where v = 450 Hz, and m/L is 25000 kg/m
So 1440 = squre root of (F/25000)
F = 82.8 N which is incorrect.
Not sure what I am doing wrong.

Thanks

450 Hz is a frequency, not a velocity, but it looks like you did in fact calculate the velocity correctly. 25mg/m is not 25000 kg/m
 
Oops, I meant to say that v = 1440.
So for this equation,
v = square root of (F / (m/L))

I know v and I am looking for F. But I am having trouble converting
25 mg/m to m/L.
 
kbyws37 said:
Oops, I meant to say that v = 1440.
So for this equation,
v = square root of (F / (m/L))

I know v and I am looking for F. But I am having trouble converting
25 mg/m to m/L.

1 mg = 1/1000 g
1 g = 1/1000 kg

All unit conversions involve multiplying by one. There are endless ways to write one, such as

1 = 1000mg/g = 1g/1000mg
1 = 1000g/kg = 1kg/1000g

μ = 25mg/m*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1 = 25mg/m
μ = 25mg/m(1g/1000mg)(1kg/1000g) is still 25mg/m, but the units divide out to give

μ = 25mg/m(1g/1000mg)(1kg/1000g) = .000025 kg/m
 

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