Tension connecting two collinear rotating objects

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The discussion centers on calculating the tension in a string (T2) connected to a 4 kg object with a tangential speed of 8 m/s at the top of its trajectory. The user initially derived a negative value for T2, indicating a miscalculation in applying the formula for forces acting on the object. The correct approach involves using the equation W + T2 = m(v^2/r) to account for both the weight and tension acting downwards. The user acknowledged their error after reviewing the calculations, demonstrating the importance of careful analysis in physics problems.

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Homework Statement
Two objects of mass 3 kg and 4 kg are rotating in vertical circle. Mass 3 kg is connected to the center of rotation by string 1 and mass 3 kg and 4 kg are connected by string 2. The length of each string is 0.5 m and the two objects are always collinear when rotating. If the tangential speed of 3 kg object is 4 m/s, find the magnitude of tension in string 2 when they are at the top of the trajectory
Relevant Equations
##v=\omega .r##

##F=m.a##

##a=\frac{v^2}{r}##
Tangential speed of 4 kg object is 8 m/s

At the top of the trajectory, there will be two downwards forces acting on 4 kg object, which are tension of string 2 (T2) and weight

##F=m.a##
##W + T_2=m.\frac{v^2}{r}##

Putting all the values, I get negative value for T2. Where is my mistake?

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songoku said:
I get negative value for T2
Strange... I don't. Please fill in the details.
 
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haruspex said:
Strange... I don't. Please fill in the details.
Never mind. I have checked several times before posting and didn't spot the mistake but only from once reading what you wrote I directly see my mistake. My dumbness just has no limit.

Thank you very much haruspex and happy new year
 

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