How is the Centrifugal Force Derived from Scalar Potentials?

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The centrifugal force is expressed as the vector product $$\Omega \times r \times \Omega$$. In the discussion, it is noted that this can be represented as the scalar $$\frac{1}{2}(r\Omega)^2 - \frac{1}{2}\Omega^2r^2$$, which is derived from the relationship between angular velocity and radius. The scalar form is identified as the centrifugal potential, and taking the gradient with respect to $$\vec r$$ and negating it yields the centrifugal force. The discussion emphasizes the distinction between vector and scalar representations in this context.

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The centrifugal force is
$$
\Omega\times r\times \Omega
$$

I paper I am reading then writes it as ##\frac{1}{2}(r\Omega)^2 - \frac{1}{2}\Omega^2r^2##

How was this obtained?

Using the fact that ##a\times b\times c = (ac)b - (ab)c##, I don't get what they are getting so there is something else that I am missing.
 
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Dustinsfl said:
The centrifugal force is
$$
\Omega\times r\times \Omega
$$

I paper I am reading then writes it as ##\frac{1}{2}(r\Omega)^2 - \frac{1}{2}\Omega^2r^2##

How was this obtained?

Using the fact that ##a\times b\times c = (ac)b - (ab)c##, I don't get what they are getting so there is something else that I am missing.
Is there something assumed about a relationship between Ω and r ?

Is Ω precessing about r, or vice-versa ?

##\Omega\times r\times \Omega\ ## is a vector.

##\frac{1}{2}(r\Omega)^2 - \frac{1}{2}\Omega^2r^2## is a scalar .
 
Dustinsfl said:
The centrifugal force is
$$
\Omega\times r\times \Omega
$$

I paper I am reading then writes it as ##\frac{1}{2}(r\Omega)^2 - \frac{1}{2}\Omega^2r^2##

How was this obtained?

Using the fact that ##a\times b\times c = (ac)b - (ab)c##, I don't get what they are getting so there is something else that I am missing.
As written, that's a scalar, it has the wrong units for force, and it's zero.

However, ##\frac 1 2 (\vec r\cdot\vec{\Omega})^2 - \frac 1 2 \Omega^2 r^2## is something very different. It's still a scalar, it still has the wrong units for a force, but it is a rather special scalar. It's the centrifugal potential. Take the gradient with respect to ##\vec r## and negate and you'll get the centrifugal force.
 

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