How is the cohesive energy in a molecular solid calculated?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of cohesive energy in molecular solids, specifically focusing on the summation of interactions between molecules or atoms. The original poster references a potential energy equation for noble gases and seeks clarification on the reasoning behind transforming a double sum into a single sum, particularly regarding the emergence of a factor of N in the context of cohesive energy calculations.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how the transformation of a double sum into a single sum leads to a factor of N. They also question the appearance of a factor of 2 in the context of ionic solids compared to molecular solids.

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Some participants provide guidance on expressing terms and suggest performing double sums to clarify the emergence of N. There is acknowledgment of potential discrepancies with textbook references, and the discussion reflects a productive exploration of the differences between molecular and ionic solids.

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Participants note the distinction in treatment between molecular solids and ionic solids regarding the factors involved in cohesive energy calculations, indicating a possible difference in assumptions or definitions used in the textbook referenced.

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When the calculation for the cohesive energy in a molecular solid is carried on, there appears a summation for the interaction of all the molecules or atoms in the solid, (see for example Kittel Introduction to solid state Physics 3rd edition, page 87). For noble gases, this interaction could be a Van der Waals interaction, then for any two atoms the interaction potential is given by

##U=4 \epsilon \left [ \left(\frac{\sigma}{R} \right )^{12}-\left(\frac{\sigma}{R} \right )^{6} \right ]##.

So the total cohesive energy in the solid will be given by

##U_T=\frac{1}{2} \sum_{i,j} 4 \epsilon \left [ \left(\frac{\sigma}{R_{i,j}} \right )^{12}-\left(\frac{\sigma}{R_{i,j}} \right )^{6} \right ]##

##R_{i,j}=|\vec{r}_i-\vec{r}_j|##.

Now, this double sum can be converted into a single sum, and here is my doubt, which is how the reasoning is made to get that the sum over all i's gives a term of N, you can see this result in the book by Kittel, where besides it is taken a geometrical factor for the distance bewtween atoms, where appears the distance to first neighboors ##R##, so that:

##R_{i,j}=p_{i,j}R##.

But basically my doubt is on this step:

##U_T=\frac{1}{2} \sum_{i,j} 4 \epsilon \left [ \left(\frac{\sigma}{R_{i,j}} \right )^{12}-\left(\frac{\sigma}{R_{i,j}} \right )^{6} \right ]=\frac{N}{2} 4 \epsilon \sum_{j \neq i} \left [ \left(\frac{\sigma}{R_{i,j}} \right )^{12}-\left(\frac{\sigma}{R_{i,j}} \right )^{6} \right ]##

Which I interpret that states, for an arbitrary potential between atoms ##u_{i,j}## that:

##\sum_{i,j} u_{i,j}=N \sum_{j\neq i} u_{i,j}##.

That result is the one which I can't understand, I don't know how to get it. I think that it is a fundamental fact to demonstrate this result that ##u_{i,j}=u_{j,i}=u(|\vec{r}_i-\vec{r}_j|)##, but I still don't know how to show that the sum over one index gives N times the same thing.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Best to express the term in brackets (where the sigmas and R's are in) as something like U_ij and then manually perform a double sum and collect like terms. You should see the N pop out. Note that for this to work U_ij = U_ji as you stated.
 
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Thanks. I got it. there's still something. When it is computed the case for ionic solids, there appears a factor of 2N, that I don't know where it comes from. Instead of having the sum:

##U_T=\frac{1}{2}\sum_i \sum_j u_{i,j}=\frac{N}{2} \sum_{j\neq i} u_{i,j}##

It comes a factor of 2:

##U_T=\frac{1}{2}\sum_i \sum_j u_{i,j}=\frac{2N}{2} \sum_{j\neq i} u_{i,j}##

And I don't know why that is.
 
I would find the factor of 2 to be normal as it is canceled out by the 1/2. The purpose of 1/2 is to eliminate the double counting. This is typical for pair interaction potentials.
If you're comparing with the book, there is a possibility of a typo.
 
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No, its ok. The book just considers N molecules, where each molecule is a pair of ions, that's where it comes from. I was a little bit annoyed because for molecular solids (noble gases) that factor of 2 wasn't taken in account, and for ionic solids it was. But now I get what it means. Thanks.
 

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