How is the position vector solved using arctan in the solution manual?

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The discussion revolves around the use of arctan in solving for the position vector in a physics problem. Participants are examining the relationship between the position vector and its derivative, particularly in the context of a solution manual's approach.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use arctan with the position components but questions the reasoning behind the solution manual's use of the derivative. Other participants discuss the potential confusion caused by the notation used for the direction of the velocity vector.

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The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the problem and the notation used. Some participants have expressed confusion regarding the terminology, while others are questioning the validity of the solution manual's approach without reaching a consensus.

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There is mention of potential confusion due to the choice of symbols in the problem, which may affect understanding. Participants are also reflecting on the clarity of the problem statement itself.

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Homework Statement


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2. The attempt at a solution

I would use the arctan (Position j / Position i) and set it equal to the position vector. Then I would substitute values from the graph to find the variables.

The solution manual, however, takes the derivative of the position vector and then sets it equal to the arctan (Position j / Position i). I don't understand the reasoning behind taking the velocity vector (derivative of position vector) instead of the position vector itself.
 
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What is your question ?
What are the relevant equations ?
What is your attempt at solution ? Would this, would that ... is not what helps here. If you think that's the right way, then do it and show the results. Or perhaps you are by then convinced that your answer is right and the solution manual is in error (it happens, sometimes!).
 
In this problem, they're using the symbol ##\theta## to represent the direction of the velocity vector, rather than the circumferential coordinate of the particle. This is an unfortunate choice, since it certainly causes confusion. They should have called it something else, like ##\phi##.

Chet
 
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Good point by Chet: I am one of the shallow readers who got confused... o:)
 
BvU said:
Good point by Chet: I am one of the shallow readers who got confused... o:)
Don't beat yourself up. It was a poorly posed problem.

Chet
 

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