How Is the Spring Constant Calculated for Car Vibrations?

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The calculation of the spring constant for car vibrations involves determining the effective mass of the system, which includes both the car and the driver. In this case, the spring constant (k) was calculated as -1.33 x 10^5 Nm using the driver's mass alone, leading to an incorrect frequency of 50 Hz. The correct approach requires using the total mass of the car (1500 kg) plus the driver (68 kg), and applying the formula for time as T = sqrt[(4π²)(m/k)], resulting in a frequency of 1.5 Hz as stated in the reference book.

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Homework Statement



The springs of a 1500kg car compress 5mm when its 68kg driver gets into the drivers seat. If the car goes over a bump what will be the frequency of the vibrations?


Homework Equations



Spring force = F = -kx
Time = (4pi^2)(m/k)
Freq = 1/T


The Attempt at a Solution



Change of mass = 68kg
(68kg * 9.8m/s2)/.005m = -k = 1.33 * 10^5 Nm
k = -1.33 * 10^5 Nm

Time = (4pi^2)(68kg/-1.33 * 10^5 Nm) = 0.02s (in neg y direction)

Freq = 1/T = 1/0.02 = 50Hz

Book gives 1.5 Hz as correct answer.
Should I be using a different mass value? Different equations? Thanks for taking a look!
 
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EroAlchemist said:
If the car goes over a bump what will be the frequency of the vibrations?

Spring force = F = -kx
Time = (4pi^2)(m/k)

k = -1.33 * 10^5 Nm

Time = (4pi^2)(68kg/-1.33 * 10^5 Nm) = 0.02s (in neg y direction)

Freq = 1/T = 1/0.02 = 50Hz

Book gives 1.5 Hz as correct answer.
Should I be using a different mass value? Different equations? Thanks for taking a look!


The book is correct.
Your equation should be (double check your notes or text):
Time = sqrt[(4pi^2)(m/k)]
The mass should be the mass of the system (car + driver), not just the driver.
 
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