How Is Torque Calculated on a Triangular Plate with Pivoted Forces?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the torque on a triangular plate subjected to three forces, with a focus on the forces' directions and their respective contributions to the total torque about a pivot point. The problem involves understanding the geometry of the forces and their angles relative to the pivot point.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of torque for each force acting on the plate, questioning the signs of the torques based on the direction of the forces. There is an exploration of the geometry involved, particularly the angles and distances from the pivot point.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, verifying calculations and signs of torque. One participant has confirmed the correctness of another's torque sign analysis, indicating a productive exchange of ideas. However, the discussion does not reach a consensus on the final torque value.

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A light triangular plate OAB is in a horizontal plane. The 3 forces, F1 = 7 N, F2 = 3 N, F3 = 8 B, act on the plate, which is pivoted about a vertical axes through point O. Consider the counterclockwise sense as positive. The sum of the torques about the vertical axis through point O, acting on the plate due to forces F1, F2, and F3, is closest to:

a. 0.30 N*m-----------b. 1.2 N*m---------c. –0.30 N*m------d. –1.2 N*m-------e. zero

In the attachment, please note that the angle between F1 and the dotted line is 30 degrees. The angle between the dotted line and F3 is 45 degrees.
Angle 1 = 30 degrees
Angle 3 = 45 degrees

Hypotenuse = 1.0 m

If you cannot see the attachment, please tell me.

Since the plate is rotated around point O,

The torque where F3 acts is 0 m*N since r = 0 m??

Therefore, only forces 1 and 2 are left.

Is Force 2 counterclockwise, which makes it positive? Torque 2 = F*r*sin theta = 3N*0.8 m*sin 90 = +2.4 m*N??

Is Force 1 clockwise, which makes it negative? Torque 1 = F*r*sin theta = 7N*sin 90*0.6 m = -2.1 m*N?

Sum of torques = 2.4 m*N – 2.1 m*N = 0.30 m*N??

Thanks.
 

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Unfortunately, I cannot see the attachment, but it is possibly due to my computer []. But yes, if the force vector intersects with the axis, the torque produced by that force must equal zero.
 
I tried saving it as a Word document. Hopefully, it is accessible now.
 

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Are my signs for the torque correct?

Thanks again.
 
Yes, your signs are correct.
 

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