How Is Work Rate Calculated for a Block Pulled by a Constant Force?

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The problem involves a 5.0-kg block being pulled across a horizontal surface by a constant force of 12 N, with a coefficient of friction of 0.20. Participants are tasked with determining the rate at which the force is doing work at t = 5.0 s.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of net force by subtracting friction from the applied force. There is exploration of how to find acceleration, final velocity, and power using different equations. Some participants express confusion about the concept of instantaneous power versus average power.

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The discussion includes various attempts to calculate power and work, with participants questioning their results and the definitions of terms. Some guidance is offered regarding the relationship between force, distance, and time, but no consensus is reached on the correct answer.

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Participants note the challenge posed by the specific numerical values in the problem, particularly how the net force and speed at t = 5 seconds appear to coincide. There is mention of the potential for misinterpretation of the question's requirements.

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Homework Statement



Starting from rest at t = 0, a 5.0-kg block is pulled across a horizontal surface by a constant horizontal force having a magnitude of 12 N. If the coefficient of friction between the block and the surface is 0.20, at what rate is the 12-N force doing work at t = 5.0 s?

Homework Equations



Force = mass x acceleration
Friction force = coeff of friction x normal force
Work = mass x acceleration x distance
Power = mass x acceleration x distance / time ... ?

The Attempt at a Solution



Force in the horizontal direction should be applied force minus friction force right? So:

12.0 Newtons - (0.20 x 5.0 kg x 9.8) Newtons = 2.20 Newtons
acceleration in x direction = 2.2 Newtons / 5 kg = .44 meters per second squared
final velocity = acceleration x time = .44 x 5 = 2.2 m/s
power = force x speed = 2.2 Newtons x 2.2 meters per second = 4.84 ?
or... mass x acceleration x distance = work per second? That would be:
5 kg x .44 m/s^2 x 5.5 m / 1 s = 12.1 watts ?

0.13 kW
0.14 kW
0.12 kW
26 W
12 W

What I don't understand is what "power at time x" means. Wouldn't that be instantaneous power? I thought power was total work over a time interval. I'm confused as hell ><
 
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CaptainADHD said:

Homework Statement



Starting from rest at t = 0, a 5.0-kg block is pulled across a horizontal surface by a constant horizontal force having a magnitude of 12 N. If the coefficient of friction between the block and the surface is 0.20, at what rate is the 12-N force doing work at t = 5.0 s?

Homework Equations



Force = mass x acceleration
Friction force = coeff of friction x normal force
Work = mass x acceleration x distance
Power = mass x acceleration x distance / time ... ?

The Attempt at a Solution



Force in the horizontal direction should be applied force minus friction force right? So:

12.0 Newtons - (0.20 x 5.0 kg x 9.8) Newtons = 2.20 Newtons
acceleration in x direction = 2.2 Newtons / 5 kg = .44 meters per second squared
final velocity = acceleration x time = .44 x 5 = 2.2 m/s
power = force x speed = 2.2 Newtons x 2.2 meters per second = 4.84 ?
or... mass x acceleration x distance = work per second? That would be:
5 kg x .44 m/s^2 x 5.5 m / 1 s = 12.1 watts ?

0.13 kW
0.14 kW
0.12 kW
26 W
12 W

What I don't understand is what "power at time x" means. Wouldn't that be instantaneous power? I thought power was total work over a time interval. I'm confused as hell ><

Work is F * D and Power is W / time.

Rewriting then Power = F * D/time

If you want instantaneous power then choose a ΔD and divide by the corresponding Δt.

Power = F * Δd/Δt ... hmmm... anything look familiar?
 
LowlyPion said:
Work is F * D and Power is W / time.

Rewriting then Power = F * D/time

If you want instantaneous power then choose a ΔD and divide by the corresponding Δt.

Power = F * Δd/Δt ... hmmm... anything look familiar?

So for that specific instant in time, the power is force in that direction multiplied by speed at that point?
 
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Here is what I keep getting every time I work this. EVERY... TIME...

Starting from rest at t = 0, a 5.0-kg block is pulled across a horizontal surface by a constant horizontal force having a magnitude of 12 N. If the coefficient of friction between the block and the surface is 0.20, at what rate is the 12-N force doing work at t = 5.0 s?

The force in that direction of motion is 2.2 Newtons ---- 12 N - (.2x5x9.8) = 2.2 Newtons

The acceleration --- 2.2 N = (5 kg) x (a) ... so a = 0.44 meters per second squared.

Since force is constant, acceleration is constant. Starting from rest:

velocity at 5 seconds is (0.44 m/s^2)(5) = 2.2 meters per second. HEY LOOK AT THAT! THE SPEED IS THE SAME AS THE FORCE. HUR HUR. WTFFFF?

So if power is the rate of work, and somehow instantaneous work is force times velocity at a point, then ------- 2.2 Newtons TIMES velocity at t=5 (ALSO 2.2 HURHUR WTF) = 4.4 watts.

But guess what? 4.4 watts isn't one of the choices. AWESOME. COOL QUESTION.a s;ldkfja;slkdjfal;skdjfldblackblackff

H E L P
 
OK. You figured a = .44

P = F * D / T

You know Force is 2.2 N

Your Distance is D = 1/2 * a * T2 = 1/2 * .44 * 52

P = 2.2 * .22 * 52 / 5 = 2.2 * .22 * 5 = 2.42 N-m/s
 
LowlyPion said:
OK. You figured a = .44

P = F * D / T

You know Force is 2.2 N

Your Distance is D = 1/2 * a * T2 = 1/2 * .44 * 52

P = 2.2 * .22 * 52 / 5 = 2.2 * .22 * 5 = 2.42 N-m/s

Thank you for the help, and for putting up with my frustration, but 2.42 Newton meters per second aka watts is not one of the listed solutions.

Could it be that I should use the 12 Newtons of applied force x 2.2 m/s : 26.4 watts? That's one of the solutions given.

I think this question is so disgustingly hard for the simple fact that the speed also just happens to be equal to the net force on the object.

Could 26.4 watts be a possible solution?
 
CaptainADHD said:
Thank you for the help, and for putting up with my frustration, but 2.42 Newton meters per second aka watts is not one of the listed solutions.

Could it be that I should use the 12 Newtons of applied force x 2.2 m/s : 26.4 watts? That's one of the solutions given.

I think this question is so disgustingly hard for the simple fact that the speed also just happens to be equal to the net force on the object.

Could 26.4 watts be a possible solution?

I misread. The work from the 12 N force over the distance is what you want.

That would be 12 * 1/2*a*t2/t = 12*1/2*.44*5 = 13.2 N-m/s
 
LowlyPion said:
I misread. The work from the 12 N force over the distance is what you want.

That would be 12 * 1/2*a*t2/t = 12*1/2*.44*5 = 13.2 N-m/s

Not sure, but isn't 13.2 Newton meters per second = 13.2 watts?

If so, the solution set for the question still doesn't provide a match: closest is .13 kW, which would be 130 watts.

They ask what rate the 12 Newton force is doing work at time = 5. I've look around the web and found a few sources that say power at a moment in time is the force times the change in distance over change in time (aka speed).

Given the acceleration is .44 meters per second squared, and that initial velocity is zero, speed at time = 5 should be 2.2 meters per second.

So if power at an instant is force times speed, answer would be 26.4 watts, no?
 
Alright my instructor gave me the answer on this one (for anyone who arrives here via google):

You have to
1. Calculate net force as the difference between F and (Uk)mg = 2.2 Newtons.
2. Use that to find acceleration using F=ma
3. Use the acceleration to find the speed at time = 5 seconds.
4. Multiply that speed with the 12 Newton force to get instantaneous power at time = 5 seconds. ->26.4 watts

This question sucked because the force of kinetic friction just happened to be the exact same number as acceleration due to gravity (9.8) AND the net force was equal to the velocity at time = 5 seconds.
 

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