How long could life on Earth survive if the sun went out?

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If the sun were to suddenly disappear, Earth would go dark and life would ultimately end. The gravitational effects of the sun's disappearance would cause Earth to exit its orbit immediately, as gravity changes at the speed of light. While Newton's theory of gravity suggests an immediate response, Einstein's general relativity cannot address such a scenario due to its contradictions. Life could persist for millennia in extreme environments, such as deep underground or around mid-ocean vents, sustained by chemical energy from geological processes.

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if the sun disappears, the Earth would go dark and life would end ...

it would also go out of orbit

but how soon? immediately?

even the light takes 8 minutes to reach earth, as they are so far away...

if the whole mass of sun disappeared suddenly... would Earth go out of orbit immediately? if not how fast? and how does it work? would a further planet, say, saturn go out of orbit later for example?
 
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8 minutes after the sun disappeared, the now dark Earth would leave orbit in whatever direction it was traveling at that time.
 
ketanco said:
if the whole mass of sun disappeared suddenly
This is not possible according to physics so the questions which follow cannot be answered according to physics.
 
That would be a cool video to see, a computer simulation of 'poof', there goes the sun, and where do the planets go? I think the Earth would keep it's moon... probably all the other planets too?
 
ketanco said:
if the sun disappears, the Earth would go dark and life would end ...

it would also go out of orbit

but how soon? immediately?

even the light takes 8 minutes to reach earth, as they are so far away...

if the whole mass of sun disappeared suddenly... would Earth go out of orbit immediately? if not how fast? and how does it work? would a further planet, say, saturn go out of orbit later for example?
Newton's theory of gravity says that the answer is "immediately". But Newton's theory is built up around a formula that says that the force that one mass exerts on another depends only on the distance. So to apply Newton's theory to this problem is essentially to just assume that the answer is "immediately".

Einstein's theory of gravity (general relativity) can't answer the question, since there's no solution of Einstein's equation that describes a suddenly disappearing star. So the question contradicts the theory. You clearly can't use a theory to answer a question that contradicts that theory.
 
There's nothing instantaneous about gravity... gravity travels/changes at the spped of light. The moon is just where you see it to be, at the same time it's pulling on the tides
 
WhatIsGravity said:
There's nothing instantaneous about gravity... gravity travels/changes at the spped of light. The moon is just where you see it to be, at the same time it's pulling on the tides

not quite.
do some reading up on tides. There is a significant time lag ( tho not totally due to gravity)

IF your statement was correct, then there would be a high tide at YOUR location every time the moon was directly overhead ( highest point in the sky at your location).
But this doesn't happen.

It would happen IF the Earth had a completely water surface ( no dry land)

Dave
 
davenn said:
IF your statement was correct, then there would be a high tide at YOUR location every time the moon was directly overhead ( highest point in the sky at your location).
But this doesn't happen.

It would happen IF the Earth had a completely water surface ( no dry land)

Dave

The surface you're talking about is called a geoid, and my statement is correct. A lag in tides is due to geography, bays or isthmus or whatnot.
 
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ketanco said:
if the sun disappears, the Earth would go dark and life would end ...
Life might keep going for some millennia.
Microbes deep underground and life around mid-ocean vents depend on chemical energy. Much of this is driven by geological processes arising from radioactive decay and, perhaps, gravitational stresses.
The oceans would not freeze completely for hundreds of thousands of years. See http://www.popsci.com.au/science/if-the-sun-went-out-how-long-could-life-on-earth-survive,379953
 

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