How long does it take the car to move 30 m from rest?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the motion of a car from rest, specifically calculating the time it takes to travel 30 meters. The subject area includes kinematics and the application of Newton's laws of motion.

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There are multiple interpretations of the problem setup, particularly regarding the representation of mass and the clarity of the calculations. Some participants provide supportive feedback on the approaches taken, while others raise concerns about the dimensional accuracy of the formulas used.

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In my approach,

##T - R = ma##

##4.5m - 4m = ma##

and

##s = \dfrac{1}{2} at^2##

##a=0.5##

therefore,

##30 = 0.5 ×0.5 ×t^2##

##t^2 = \sqrt {120} = 10.95## seconds ##≈11## seconds.

Your insight is welcome or better approach...
 
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chwala said:
In my approach,
##T - R = ma##
##4.5m - 4m = ma##
So ##0.5m = ma \Rightarrow a = 0.5##
It was somewhat confusing to me to see the equation ##s = \frac 1 2 at^2## thrown in before the conclusion stating the value of a.
chwala said:
and
##s = \dfrac{1}{2} at^2##
##a=0.5##
therefore,
##30 = 0.5 ×0.5 ×t^2##
##t^2 = \sqrt {120} = 10.95## seconds ##≈11## seconds.

Your insight is welcome or better approach...
 
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@Mark44 makes a good point. It's a good idea to present your work logically so there can be no doubt about the steps you took. This is especially important if you must hand in your work to be graded!

(I knew what you meant, but still.)
 
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I found it disturbing to have ##m## presented as a pure number rather than as a mass. This means that the usual physics formula: ##F=ma## is not dimensionally correct.

Nonetheless, turning a blind eye to the inconsistent units, the result of the calculation is correct.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
I found it disturbing to have ##m## presented as a pure number rather than as a mass. This means that the usual physics formula: ##F=ma## is not dimensionally correct.

Nonetheless, turning a blind eye to the inconsistent units, the result of the calculation is correct.
But question has clearly indicated ##m## as the mass. I do not understand what you mean by stating that it is given as a number. The net force on the toy car is in equilibrium and therefore the usual physics formula ##F= ma## is still dimensionally correct.
 
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chwala said:
But question has clearly indicated ##m## as the mass. I do not understand what you mean by stating that it is given as a number. The net force on the toy car is in equilibrium and therefore the usual physics formula ##F= ma## is still dimensionally correct.
In the question, ##m## as specified is a number. E.g. if the car has a mass of ##2kg##, then ##m =2##. ##m## itself does not have units.

Note that the other data, such as specifying a force of ##4m \ N## only makes sense dimensionally if ##m## is a number.

I thought it was an odd construction, but not particularly disturbing.
 
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Bro was disturbed by physics 💀
 
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