How long until the planets collide?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two planets with specified masses and radii orbiting their common center of mass at an initial distance, seeking to determine the time until they collide. The context is rooted in gravitational interactions and orbital mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation laws and has drawn a free-body diagram but expresses difficulty in setting up the necessary differential equations. Some participants question the assumptions regarding the nature of the forces involved, particularly in relation to friction and energy dissipation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with the original poster seeking advice on how to construct the equations needed to solve the problem. There is an indication of differing interpretations regarding the forces at play, particularly concerning the role of friction or diffusion in the collision process.

Contextual Notes

No specific equations have been provided, and the original poster has noted a lack of external forces affecting the center of mass, which may influence the setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Two planets of masses [itex]m_1[/itex] and [itex]m_2[/itex] with radii [itex]r_1[/itex] and [itex]r_2[/itex] respectively are orbiting their common center of mass at some initial distance [itex]x_0[/itex] from each other with angular velocity [itex]\omega_0[/itex]. Find the amount of time it takes for these planets to collide.

Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



So far, I've drawn my free-body diagram with the axes in the Center of Mass reference frame, figured that the position of the center of mass remains constant since no net external force acts, and that conservation of momentum applies since no net external torque acts either. However, I'm having difficulty setting the problem up (constructing a series of differential equations to solve) and would appreciate any advice.

Thanks!
 
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jgens said:
Find the amount of time it takes for these planets to collide.
Thanks!
Hello jgens
In the way you put it it is a potential equation. For colliding you need something diffusive. Rotational energy diminishing because of friction or any other diffusion. For instance if a speaker moves particles a comoving for some time, that is called sound. Since this comovement diffuses the sound deminishes and the particles are moving statistically erradic again.
greetings Janm
 

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