How Long Until the Rocket Returns to the Ground?

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The problem involves a model rocket that accelerates upward at 4.0 g for 33 seconds before stopping and falling back to the ground. The question seeks to determine the total time from the end of the upward acceleration until the rocket returns to the ground.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using velocity and gravity to determine the time to maximum height, but some express confusion about the calculations involved.
  • There is a suggestion to calculate the height reached during the upward acceleration and then determine the time to fall from that height.
  • Questions arise regarding whether to subtract the initial 33 seconds from the total time and how to accurately find the time to maximum height after the acceleration stops.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants offer calculations and reasoning, while others seek clarification on specific steps and concepts. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of inquiry are being pursued.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to account for the initial acceleration period and the transition to free fall. The discussion reflects uncertainty about how to integrate these elements into a cohesive solution.

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A model rocket takes off from ground level accelerating upward at 4.0 g. This upward acceleration lasts for 33 s. Afterward the rocket continues upward, eventually stops rising, then falls back to the ground.

How much time passes from the initial upward acceleration stoping to the rocket returning to the ground?

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What are your thoughts on how to solve it?
 
I am using velocity/gravity, but it don't seem to work out.
 
lazyboi605 said:
I am using velocity/gravity, but it don't seem to work out.

That only gives you the time to max height.

If you want, you can figure that height and then get the time to fall in gravity from x = 1/2*g*t2

Then just add the 2 times together.
 
Would i need to minus 33, because i am trying to find the time passed from initial upward acceleration stopping.
 
Also i don't understand how to find the time to max height. because it will still move after it accelerate.
 
lazyboi605 said:
Would i need to minus 33, because i am trying to find the time passed from initial upward acceleration stopping.
V = a*t
So when the engine shuts off, you are going at (4*g)*33 m/s
and dividing by g yields the additional time to max height = 4*33 s.

Now solve for X of engine shutoff X = 1/2 *4*g *t2
That's the point when the engine stops.

Figure the additional height from that point by
V2 = 2*g*x

Add the 2 heights - up to engine shutoff and from shutoff to 0 velocity at the top.

Using that height now as your X you have only to solve for the time using

X = 1/2*g*t2

That time to fall + time to max height from engine shut off is what they want.
 

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