How long will it take the police car to catch us to Sylvia’s car?

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving a police car accelerating from rest to catch up with a speeder, Sylvia, who is driving at a constant speed. The participants are exploring the dynamics of motion and the application of kinematic equations to determine the time it takes for the police car to catch Sylvia.

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  • Participants discuss breaking the problem into segments based on the police car's acceleration and Sylvia's constant speed. There are attempts to clarify the wording of the problem and the assumptions regarding initial conditions. Questions arise about the correct application of kinematic equations and the interpretation of acceleration.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on setting up equations for both vehicles. There is a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of the problem's conditions and the mathematical relationships involved. Some participants are exploring different interpretations and clarifying the assumptions made in the problem setup.

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There is a noted concern about the lack of information regarding the initial distance between the two cars and the implications of instantaneous acceleration for the police car. Participants are also questioning the assumptions made about Sylvia's motion and the implications for the equations used.

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Sylvia was driving at the constant speed of 25 m/s. She missed the posted speed limit sign in a school zone she was passing through. A police car was hiding on a curve and police car started accelerating from rest at 2.0 m/s2. From the time that Sylvia’s car passes police car

How long will it take the police car to catch us to Sylvia’s car?

I just need to know how to solve this, fist try I got 12.5 seconds, but I am not sure if iam right, what i did was i divide 25 by 2. I really need help with this, can anyone please give me tips or hints please... I was struggling with this for an hour T.T
 
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You need to break the problem up into two pieces: before the police car accelerates, and the time it takes to catch the speeder. In both pieces of the problem, each car has a constant acceleration, so that allows us to use the kinematic equations. I'm hoping that wasn't the exact wording of the problem. If you still have trouble, could you state the problem word by word, and tell me which concept you're having trouble with exactly? This will help us avoid wrong answers.
 
ok i will try now and see if it works...
 
I really don't know how to get this because from 5 variables, they only give you 2 for police car and 3 for Sylvia's car... Can you give me more tips?.. please and thankyou
 
First, I'd like to know if the problem you posted was the exact wording of the problem, once I know that, it will be much easier to help you. From what you wrote, it sounds like the police car accelerates instantaneously, and this is typically not the case.
 
yes it is exact word from the probllem, police car is accelerating from rest which is 0m/s instantaneously its accelerating..
 
Does the problem mention something like "it takes 3 seconds for the police car to react" or "after 3 seconds the police car begins accelerating"? If it doesn't say something like that, it assumes the police officer steps on the gas the very moment the speeder passes him. Check one last time for me, then we'll tackle the problem :)
 
It tells us that it steps on the gas from the time Sylvia's car passes police car..
 
Write the equation for Sylvia's car... displacement in terms of time... Sylvia's going at a constant velocity.

write the equation for the police car... it has uniform acceleration, a = 2.
 
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okay!
 
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Ok then, let's break it down. The speeder has zero acceleration, the police car has a constant acceleration (which is given). We have to assume, since the police car apparently accelerates right at the moment the speeder passes him, that no initial distance was covered by the speeder (which again is very strange). We know that when they catch each other, their displacements will be equal. We use the displacement equation for constant acceleration: [tex]x = x_0 + v_0t + .5at^2[/tex]. You'll have one for the police car, and one for the speeder, simply set them equal to each other and solve for the time.
 
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Silvia's
D= 25+25/2 *t

Police
d=0t+(2tsquared/2)
 
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oh so i have to substitute the equation right?
 
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is acceleration of sylvia's car is 0?
 
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Well, you would set the two equations equal to each other. The distance equation for the police car looks fine, but how do you get 25 + 25/2*t for the speeder?

Edit: Yes, sylvia moves at a constant velocity, therefore she has zero acceleration.
 
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oh my bad,, i used wrong formula hold on please...
 
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d=25*t+(t squared/2) is this right?...
 
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I assume you get (t squared/2) from the acceleration part of the equation, but think of this: if sylvia has 0 acceleration, what happens to 1/2 a t^2?
 
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oh yea... it becomes 0 ... hehe..
 
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So it will be just d=25t for Sylvia's
 
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Assuming she's covered zero distance previous to the police car accelerating, yes.
 
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d=0t+(2tsquared/2) and d=25t

Substitution->

2tsquared/2=25t

50t = 2t squared

25t = t squared and

t is 5?
 
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rhxoehwhfh said:
d=0t+(2tsquared/2) and d=25t

Substitution->

2tsquared/2=25t

50t = 2t squared

25t = t squared and

t is 5?

careful with the math...

[tex]25t = t^2[/tex]

continue from here...
 
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You would have [tex]t^2 = 25t[/tex]. The 2's would cancel, correct?
 
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t= 5t?... does this equation work?...
 
  • #26
You're trying to take the square root of 25, but this is unnecessary because something will cancel on both sides of this equation [tex]t^2 = 25t[/tex]. What will cancel?
 
  • #27
hmm t will cancel and t=25 right?!
 
  • #28
You got it :)
 
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Thank you very much!
 

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