How long would it take to read euclid's elements?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the time it takes to read Euclid's Elements, specifically all 13 books. Participants share their personal experiences, reading strategies, and the challenges faced based on their mathematical backgrounds and goals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the time required to read Euclid's Elements varies significantly based on one's level of mathematical education and reading goals.
  • One participant shared their experience of reading all 13 books in about 2 months after completing their undergraduate studies in mathematics, emphasizing the importance of filling in details and creating alternate proofs.
  • Another participant, with only freshman math experience, expressed surprise at the 2-month timeframe and inquired about the daily reading hours involved.
  • A participant noted that reading Euclid could be rewarding even for those without prior experience, suggesting an average of 4 hours of reading per day as manageable.
  • One comment highlighted the accessibility of online resources for reading Euclid, contrasting it with the past reliance on library resources.
  • Another perspective emphasized that reading math books is not solely about finishing them but rather about engaging with the material regularly, suggesting that aiming to read all of Euclid might be counterproductive.
  • A recommendation was made to consider supplementary resources, such as Hartshorne's book, to aid in understanding Euclid's work.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the time commitment and approach to reading Euclid's Elements, with no consensus on a definitive timeframe or method. Some emphasize the importance of regular engagement rather than completion, while others focus on the experience of reading the entire text.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying levels of prior mathematical experience, which may influence their reading speed and comprehension. There is also a discussion about the potential challenges of following Euclid's proofs without a strong mathematical background.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in reading Euclid's Elements, particularly those considering their own mathematical background and the time commitment involved.

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for those of you who've done it, how long does it take to read it? all 13 books.
 
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depends on your level of math education and what your goal in reading them is. i read all 13 books over the course of the summer (about 2 months) after i finished my undergrad in mathematics. i could imagine that someone with less experience would have a much more difficult time following the reasoning each proof. however, i also spent some time while reading it filling in some details that are left out some proofs (i suggest you buy an edition with a lot of margin space) and creating alternate proofs of some results.

how much experience do you have in reading mathematicians (as opposed to textbooks)?
 
first of all, thank you for your response.

i have never read any mathematicians before. i have done only freshman math, and scored very well in math all of my life (which means i read the textbooks). i am reading it because i really enjoyed high school geometry and wish to learn more of it. so i know all the proof types very well and how to apply them.

2 months seems like a very short time! i think the book is about 500 pages. was this all you did those two months? ie. how many hours did you read it a day?

thanks
 
reading Euclid will definitely be a different experience for you, but undoubtedly a rewarding one. if there is anyone to read without any prior experience it would be Euclid.

i'd say i read an average of about 4 hours a day on a daily basis. not too unreasonable when you think 500 pages over 2 months, which is less than 10 pages per day.

i wish you the best of luck. it is by no means overwhelming, but will take some dedication.
 
there is no rush, i am not finished after 66 years.

reading math books is not a matter of finishing them, but of beginning them, and then spending some time regularly with them.

you benefit from small portions, not necessarily needing the whole thing.

just try to learn one thing. that's already a lot.

in fact i think setting as your goal to read all of euclid is somewhat pointless, and just setting yourself up for a tedious time, and quite possibly frustrating yourself.

these grandiose projects are in a way just more excuses not to get started doing something.
 
if you really want to read euclid, try just starting. then if that bogs down, or even before, i highly recommend getting hold of hartshorne's excellent book, geometry, euclid and beyond as a guide. this is what he wrote for teaching euclid to berkeley undergrads.
 

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