How making the ions leave the cavity in a ion sources

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The discussion centers on the technical methods for allowing ions to exit a cavity in ion sources, which are used to create ion beams for various applications. The conversation explores the challenges of maintaining vacuum while facilitating ion projection, particularly in contexts like metal plating and other processes.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes ion sources and the process of creating ion beams from plasma within a low-pressure cavity, emphasizing the challenge of maintaining vacuum while allowing ions to exit.
  • Another participant suggests that a plasma window could be a viable option for allowing ions to escape without compromising the vacuum, mentioning that high ion energy might permit the use of a thin solid window.
  • A later reply reiterates the idea of a plasma window and requests clarification on the materials and thickness of a solid window suitable for this application.
  • One participant notes that the choice of material and thickness for a solid window would depend significantly on the specific application.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods for allowing ions to exit the cavity, with some proposing plasma windows and others considering solid windows. There is no consensus on the specifics of materials or thicknesses required.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks detailed specifications regarding the materials and conditions necessary for the proposed solutions, and the dependence on application-specific requirements is highlighted.

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Asking by what technical mean do the ions get out of the cavity in ion sources, whenever the ions are ejected in an environment at atmospheric pressure
Ion sources are devices that allow creating ion beams (e.g. argon ions) and to project them outside the device, for example to be further processed by a particle accelerator, or to irradiate materials or biological tissues etc.

The ions are usually created by a plasma inside a cavity filled with a noble gas maintained at very low pressure inside the cavity. Then the ions are projected outside the cavity, not necessarily inside vacuum, but also in the air at usual atmospheric pressure (e.g. for metal plating).

So, the cavity cannot have a hole to let the ions get out, otherwise the vacuum in the cavity would be destroyed. My question is by what technical mean do they make ions get out of the cavity?
 
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I know metal plating options that work without vacuum and I know ion plating in vacuum but I haven't seen a combination of that. A plasma window would be an option. With a sufficiently large ion energy you can use a thin solid window, too.
 
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mfb said:
I know metal plating options that work without vacuum and I know ion plating in vacuum but I haven't seen a combination of that. A plasma window would be an option. With a sufficiently large ion energy you can use a thin solid window, too.
Thanks for the link to plasma window technology I was unaware of.
Returning to more conventional technologies, could you please indicate me in what material is a solid window made of, and what should be its thickness (order of magnitude). thx.
 
That will depend too much on the specific application.
 

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