How many different Lunches from the Lunch Menu

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The problem involves calculating the number of different lunch combinations available at a diner, which includes options for soup or salad, a sandwich, coffee or tea, and dessert. The menu specifies 3 soups, 2 salads, 7 sandwiches, and 8 desserts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the combinations of sandwiches and desserts, initially calculating totals without considering all options. Questions arise about the inclusion of coffee or tea and the mutual exclusivity of soup and salad choices.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, identifying errors in the original calculations related to omitted choices and clarifying the concept of mutual exclusivity. Some guidance has been provided regarding the correct interpretation of the options available.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on understanding the implications of the problem's wording, particularly regarding the choices of soup versus salad and the inclusion of beverage options. Participants express uncertainty about the quantities and definitions involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement


A diner serves a lunch special, consisting of soup or salad, a sandwich, coffee or tea and a dessert. If the menu lists 3 soups , 2 salads, 7 sandwiches and 8 desserts, how many different lunches can you choose?

Homework Equations


Counting Principle

The Attempt at a Solution


Sandwiches = 7
Deserts = 8
The above two are without 'or' so their combinations = 56.
Combining 2 Salads = 56 * 2 = 112
or Combining 3 soups = 56 * 3 = 168
Total = 112 + 168 = 280

but answer is wrong. Some body please guide me.

Zulfi.
 
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what is 5x7x2x8 ?
 
Hi,
I know about 7, 2 & 8 but i don't know what's 5?

Zulfi.
 
zak100 said:

Homework Statement


A diner serves a lunch special, consisting of soup or salad, a sandwich, coffee or tea and a dessert. If the menu lists 3 soups , 2 salads, 7 sandwiches and 8 desserts, how many different lunches can you choose?

Homework Equations


Counting Principle

The Attempt at a Solution


Sandwiches = 7
Deserts = 8
The above two are without 'or' so their combinations = 56.
Combining 2 Salads = 56 * 2 = 112
or Combining 3 soups = 56 * 3 = 168
Total = 112 + 168 = 280

but answer is wrong. Some body please guide me.

Zulfi.
You are missing one choice.
 
Hi,
Are you talking about tea and coffee? No quantity mentioned about them so i have not included them.

Zulfi.
 
zak100 said:
Hi,
Are you talking about tea and coffee? No quantity mentioned about them so i have not included them.

Zulfi.
Yes. That's what I'm referring to.
 
zak100 said:
Hi,
Are you talking about tea and coffee? No quantity mentioned about them so i have not included them.

Zulfi.

It said that each meal includes either tea or coffee, so you cannot neglect them.
 
5 = 3 + 2
 
zak100 said:
but answer is wrong. Some body please guide me.
In case it is not clear from the previous replies, you have two errors. Ray and Sammy are pointing out that you have omitted the tea/coffee choice, while phinds is drawing attention to the fact that soup and salad are mutually exclusive.
 
  • #10
Hi,
Thanks all for your help. Tea/Coffee: what is their quantity? If i say that each is one, then there is no effect. I don't know what you mean by mutual Exclusive. In computer this is used for shareable device used one at a time.
Please guide me.

Zulfi.
 
  • #11
zak100 said:
dont know what you mean by mutual Exclusive
It means you cannot have both. It says "soup or salad". If there are 3 soups and two salads, how many different things can you choose?
zak100 said:
Tea/Coffee: what is their quantity?
You can have tea or coffee. How many different things can you choose?
 
  • #12
Hi,
<It means you cannot have both. It says "soup or salad". If there are 3 soups and two salads, how many different things can you choose?>
If there are 3 soups S1, S2 & S3 & 2 Salads C1, C2 then it means i can't have:
S1C1, S1C2, S2C1, S2C2, S3C1, S3C2
So i have to take each of them alone so there are 5 five choices now:
S1, S2, S3, C1, C2 and tea or coffee, i have 2 choices:
Tea1, Coffee1
7 * 8 * 5 * 2 = 560
Thanks.
Zulfi.
 
  • #13
zak100 said:
Hi,
<It means you cannot have both. It says "soup or salad". If there are 3 soups and two salads, how many different things can you choose?>
If there are 3 soups S1, S2 & S3 & 2 Salads C1, C2 then it means i can't have:
S1C1, S1C2, S2C1, S2C2, S3C1, S3C2
So i have to take each of them alone so there are 5 five choices now:
S1, S2, S3, C1, C2 and tea or coffee, i have 2 choices:
Tea1, Coffee1
7 * 8 * 5 * 2 = 560
Thanks.
Zulfi.
Good.
 
  • #14
zak100 said:
7 * 8 * 5 * 2.
Exactly. See post #2 in which my point was that you were making this problem harder than it is.
 
  • #15
Yes my friend, thanks for your response. Actually i already have the solution, but i can't understand it so i was looking for more details.

Zulfi.
 

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