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The problem involves forming project teams from a group consisting of 5 men and 7 women, with the stipulation that 2 specific women refuse to be on the same team together. The teams are to consist of 2 men and 3 women, although there is some confusion regarding the number of women required for the team.

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  • Participants discuss the correct interpretation of the problem statement, particularly the conditions regarding the two women who refuse to work together. There are attempts to clarify whether the team should consist of 2 men and 3 women or if there was a typo suggesting 7 women instead.

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There is ongoing clarification regarding the problem statement and the requirements for team composition. Some participants are questioning the assumptions made about the number of women needed and the implications of the refusal condition. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the combinations involved in forming the teams.

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There are indications of potential typos in the problem statement, leading to confusion about the correct team composition. Participants are actively seeking a complete and accurate problem statement to proceed with their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


One engineering group consists of 5 men and 7 women .
If 2 women refuse to be on the same team together , how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 3 women ?

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


5 C 2 * 5 C 3 + (2 C 1 * 5 C 2) = 120
Can somebody check my answer please ?
 
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Fatima Hasan said:

Homework Statement


One engineering group consists of 5 men and 7 women .
If 2 women refuse to be on the same team together , how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 7 women ?

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


5 C 2 * 5 C 3 + (2 C 1 * 5 C 2) = 120
Can somebody check my answer please ?

If there are 7 women in the group and you need 7 women in the team then you have to pick the 2 women who won't serve together. Is there a typo?
 
Dick said:
and you need 7 women in the team
3 women
 
Fatima Hasan said:
One engineering group consists of 5 men and 7 women .
If 2 women refuse to be on the same team together , how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 7 women ?
Is this the original problem statement? I find it ambiguous. Does
"2 women refuse to be on the same team together"

mean
a) "no two women will work on the same team together" or
b) "two particular women refuse to work on the same team together"

I think
"how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 7 women"

means
"how many different project teams can be formed if each team must consist of 2 men and 7 women",

but in that case under either option a) or b) the number of teams that can be formed is zero.

So perhaps
"how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 7 women"

means
"how many teams of at least two people" can be formed from 2 men and 7 women".

(One person does not constituted a team.) In that case the question has different answers under options a) and b).

Is there a type in the problem statement?
Should "how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 7 women"

read instead
"how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 5 men and 7 women"?

I see you have responded to @Dick while I was typing this. Could you please give us a complete and correct problem statement?
 
tnich said:
how many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 7 women
7 is a typo .
my question is "How many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 3 women "
 
Fatima Hasan said:
7 is a typo .
my question is "How many different project teams can be formed consisting of 5 men and 2 women "

Looking at your answer I would say it's "How many different project teams can be formed consisting of 2 men and 3 women" as you said in your first correction. If so your answer has correct parts. It looks like the first term is how many ways to choose the team excluding the 2 women who don't get along. The next term looks like the ways to choose the womens team with those two. But the second term doesn't have any choice of men!? It would really be best if you explained your thinking rather than me guessing it.
 
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Dick said:
Looking at your answer I would say it's "How many different project teams can be formed consisting of 5 men and 3 women" as you said in your first correction. If so your answer has correct parts. It looks like the first term is how many ways to choose the team excluding the 2 women who don't get along. The next term looks like the ways to choose the womens team with those two. But the second term doesn't have any choice of men!? It would really be best if you explained your thinking rather than me guessing it.
The first term is how many ways to choose 2 men (5C2).
The next term is how many ways to choose 3 women , either choosing 3 women without the 2 women who don't get along (5C3) or (+) choosing one women of them and (*) two others (2C1 * 5C2) .
 
Fatima Hasan said:
The first term is how many ways to choose 2 men (5C2).
The next term is how many ways to choose 3 women , either choosing 3 women without the 2 women who don't get along (5C3) or (+) choosing one women of them and (*) two others (2C1 * 5C2) .

Right. But then BOTH of the ways of choosing the women should be multiplied by the way to choose the men, not just the first.
 
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