How Many Laps Will a Muon Complete Before Decaying?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to the decay of muons in a circular orbit, specifically focusing on the number of laps a muon will complete before decaying. The context involves concepts from relativity and particle physics, particularly the anomalous magnetic moment of the muon and its behavior in a high-energy environment.

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  • Participants explore the implications of assuming the muon travels at the speed of light, questioning the validity of this assumption given the muon's mass and decay properties. There are discussions about calculating the gamma factor and its relation to the muon's energy and rest mass. Some participants express confusion regarding the lack of provided decay time and the need for proper units in calculations.

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The discussion has progressed with participants offering various approaches to calculate the number of laps, including the use of the gamma factor and the muon's rest mass. Some have identified the need to look up the muon's lifetime, while others have pointed out errors in unit conversions. There is a recognition of the complexity of the problem, with some participants arriving at numerical estimates for laps completed, though there remains uncertainty about the accuracy of these estimates.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of specific decay rates or lifetimes in the problem statement, which complicates the calculations. There is also mention of the need for clarity in the phrasing of the question, as assumptions about speed and mass lead to different interpretations.

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Homework Statement


The most precise measurement of the anomalous magnetic moment of the muon (g-2) is performed at Brookhaven (USA). In this experiment muons are held in a circular orbit in a 14 m diameter ring, with momentum 3.098 GeV. On average how many laps of the ring the muon will do before decaying? (hint: assume the the muons goes at the speed of light).

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I figure this is related to reltivity, so the muon's clock is running slow...
T=[tex]\gamma T_{0}[/tex]
(T=gamma T0)
but if v is assumed to be c, the gamma factor is infinity?

But I'm confused about how to work out a decay from energy when no decay time is given?

Is there a list of formulas anywhere that would apply to this situation?

Thanks!
 
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genloz said:

Homework Statement


The most precise measurement of the anomalous magnetic moment of the muon (g-2) is performed at Brookhaven (USA). In this experiment muons are held in a circular orbit in a 14 m diameter ring, with momentum 3.098 GeV. On average how many laps of the ring the muon will do before decaying? (hint: assume the the muons goes at the speed of light).

That question is rather silly, since it says that you must assume it goes at the speed of light, but if that was the case, then it would have to be massless, and since it wouldn't experience time, it would never decay. It may be a trick question, but as it stands, the answer would be an infinite number, since it doesn't experience time, that said, it couldn't go at c, since it has mass, but then if it was massless, it wouldn't be confined using traditional methods - you would need a gravitational field.
 
The question isn't so much silly, as badly phrased. Get the gamma by comparing muon energy to rest mass. Use the gamma to get lifetime in the lab frame. Now use the hint. You don't have to use gamma to compute v because you know it's REALLY close to c. Just use v=c to find how many laps.
 
So:
muon energy = 3.098 c GeV
speed of light in GeV = ??
muon rest mass = 0.1066 GeV
Gamma = (3.098c - 0.1066)/(0.1066*c^2) = ??
T = gamma T0
c/T = distance
distance / 2*pi*7
= number of laps

is that correct? and how do I fill in the blanks?
Thanks!
 
Are you making these formulas up? Your units are all wrong. Relativistic energy is gamma*(rest mass)*c^2. Did you look up T0? What's the lifetime of the muon in the rest frame? Energy is measured in GeV. Mass is measured in GeV/c^2. Or energy is measured in joules and mass in kg. You might wish to convert to the usual units. But how can you say distance=c/T? c is in m/sec and T is in sec. If you go back and put correct units on everything I think it will help you a lot.
 
Ok, thanks...
so gamma = relativistic energy/(restmass*c^2)
muon rest mass = 105.6 MeV/c2 = 0.1056 GeV/c2
gamma = 3.098GeV/(0.1056 GeV) = 29.337
t(rest) = gamma*t(muon)
but i don't know the lifetime of the muon in the rest frame as I wasn't given a decay rate or lifetime or anything... so how can this question be completed?

Thanks for all your help!
 
Much better. For the muon lifetime you just have to look it up. There is no formula.
 
Ok, so I think I have it now... Thanks again for all your help!

gamma = relativistic energy/(restmass*c^2)
muon rest mass = 105.6 MeV/c2 = 0.1056 GeV/c2
gamma = 3.098GeV/(0.1056 GeV) = 29.337
t(rest) = gamma*t(muon)

mean muon lifetime = 2.2ms

t = 0.0022s*29.337 = 0.0645414s

d=s*t
d=3*10^8m/s * 0.0645414 = 19 362 420m
number of laps = 19 362 420/(pi*7*2)
so 440 232 laps?
seems like a very large number...
 
Well, it's not as big as you think. Because for the muon lifetime the 2.2 is in microseconds, not milliseconds. But other than that you've made a great improvement!
 
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thankyou :-)
so more like 440 laps then? I guess that's more believable...
 
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I'll buy that. High energy muons can penetrate thousands of meters into the ground. Not millions.
 

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