How many Numbers can appear as product?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining how many numbers between 1999 and 2021 can be expressed as the product of three sums formed by increasing three prime numbers (not necessarily distinct) by 1. The focus includes exploring specific cases and examples to validate potential candidates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that by increasing three prime numbers by 1 and forming their product, they can find numbers within a specified range.
  • Another participant presents a case for the number 2016, showing it can be expressed as a product of three even numbers derived from primes, thus meeting the problem's criteria.
  • In contrast, the same participant argues that 2019 does not meet the criteria as its factors do not satisfy the conditions set by the problem.
  • A different participant suggests that since all three numbers are even, the product must be a multiple of 8, leading to candidates such as 2000, 2008, and 2016, which they propose to check further.
  • This participant analyzes 2000 and 2008, concluding that neither meets the criteria, while reaffirming the validity of 2016 as a solution.
  • Another participant expresses difficulty in understanding the explanations provided in the thread, seeking further clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that 2016 meets the conditions of the problem, but there is disagreement regarding the validity of other candidates like 2000 and 2008. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the total count of numbers that can be expressed in the specified form.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the complexity of the problem and the need for careful analysis of prime factors and their properties, indicating that assumptions about the nature of the numbers involved may affect the conclusions drawn.

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We increase by 1 each of three prime numbers, not necessarily distinct. Then we
form the product of these three sums. How many numbers between 1999 to 2021
can appear as such a product?
 
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Modified Trial & Error Solution :
Assume the three prime numbers as p < q < r, we consider the different cases for p,
q and r.

For the case of 2016= 2^5 x 3^2 x 7 , we now express 2016 as the product of three even
numbers in which some are greater than or equal to 3:
2016 = 3 x 4 x 168, where 3 = 2 +1, 4 = 3+1, 168 =167 + 1. But 2, 3 and 167 are prime numbers, so it meets
the condition of the problem. Hence, 2016 is the solution.
For the case of 2019 = 3 x 673, in the three factors except the prime number 3 the
other two numbers are both neither even number greater than 3, so has not met the
condition.
Based on all the cases above, we conclude that between 1999 to 2021, there is one
that meets the condition of the problem and that is 2016.

answers on the book, I don't quite understand his explanation.
been squeezing my head to come up with explanation still I din't get how they did it. can anyone here help me to understand it further?? thank you.
 
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Because all 3 numbers are even so we get product as multiple of 8
now the possible candidates are 2000, 2008 and 2016.
each of these to be checked.
I do not have an elegant way to analyse
2000 = 2^4 * 5^3

now 5 *2 is not a factor meeting criteria as 9 is not prime. 5*2^2 is (19+1) but there is not enough 2 (as 2^2 has to go) to give 3 even numbers

2008 = 8 * 501= 8 * 3 * 167 and as 8 is $2^3$ and it does not have 3 odd factors it is out

you have found for 2016.
 
Sorry It took me a while to fully understood this number theory.
 

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