How Many Oscillations Occur Before Amplitude Decays to e^-1?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a damped oscillating system, specifically an air-track glider attached to a spring. The problem asks how many oscillations occur before the amplitude decays to e^-1 of its initial value, given specific parameters such as mass, spring constant, and damping constant.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the damping coefficient and the time it takes for the amplitude to decay. There are attempts to derive the time using the damping equation and to connect it to the number of oscillations through frequency.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, including hints about using the period and frequency to determine the number of oscillations. Multiple interpretations of the steps involved are being explored, with some expressing confusion while others seem to grasp the concepts being discussed.

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There is a mention of a specific time value (24.2 seconds) that is relevant to the calculations, but the discussion also reflects uncertainty about how to connect this time to the frequency and the total number of oscillations. Participants are navigating through the problem without a complete consensus on the approach.

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[SOLVED] Oscillations Problem: Please help

Homework Statement



A 290 g air-track glider is attached to a spring with spring constant 4.10 N/m . The damping constant due to air resistance is 2.40×10^−2 kg/s. The glider is pulled out 28.0 cm from equilibrium and released.

How many oscillations will it make during the time in which the amplitude decays to e^-1 of its initial value?


Homework Equations



[tex]\omega=[/tex]2[tex]\pi[/tex]/T
T=2[tex]\pi[/tex][tex]\sqrt{m/k}[/tex]
Damping: x(t) = Ae[tex]^{-bt/2m}[/tex]cos([tex]\omega[/tex]t)

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't even know how to start this

Thanks so much!
 
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Well, we know the damping coefficient, b, correct? Can you use this to find the time it takes for the oscillation to decay the specified amount?
 
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is t= m/b?
 
Your a little off. Consider this:

The amplitude of the wave at any time t is given by:

[tex]Ae^{-bt/2m}[/tex]

The initial value is A, so we want to know the time that:

[tex]Ae^{-bt/2m}=Ae^{-1}[/tex]

What does this equation give you for the time?
 
Um i got 24.2
 
Sounds good to me. Now can you take this time value and use it to find out how many oscillations the system undergoes in that time? HINT: You'll need the period. How can you find that from the known information?
 
from Period= 2pi(m/k)^.5

but i don't see where the period comes in
 
Oops! I meant to say the frequency, sorry! The frequency gives you the number of oscillations in one second, correct? So, using that, how many oscillations in 24.2 seconds?
 
Im completely lost now
 
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You want to know how many oscillations happen in 24.2 seconds, correct?

Well,

the # of oscillations in one second = frequency

So if you know the frequency, you know the number of oscillations in one second. Using that information, it is a basic math problem to find the number of oscillations in 24.2 seconds. You know how to do this part if your this far into a physics course. Think about it.
 
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got it thanks so much!
 
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Good Job!
 
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Wow, someday I will be able to do that lol. GO1 recommend any sources for physics tutorials or something?
 
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silently_loud said:
Wow, someday I will be able to do that lol. GO1 recommend any sources for physics tutorials or something?

The one that is always recommended around here is hyperphysics:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html

This is a good tutorial and it is trustworthy and accurate.

If this doesn't satisfy your curiosity then I would suggest investing in a textbook. Good luck!
 
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Thanks. Really interesting stuff, really like the website. What text would you recommend for a beginner, I am taking physics now but its easy. Lately we have studied frictional forces such as F=un and F=ma, but this is over my head. Go1 what degree do you have?
 

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