How Many Photons Are in Each Bit of a 10 Gb/s Optical Signal?

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The discussion centers around calculating the number of photons in each bit of an optical signal transmitted at a bitrate of 10 Gb/s, specifically using a wavelength of 1550 nm and an average optical power of 10 mW. Participants are exploring the relationship between energy per photon and energy per bit in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of energy per photon and energy per bit, with some questioning the initial results and assumptions made in the calculations. There is mention of the average optical power and its implications for the number of photons per bit, as well as considerations of bit representation in terms of 0s and 1s.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on how to approach the calculations. There is recognition of potential confusion regarding the application of concepts from class examples, and multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored.

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There is a discussion about the unspecified coding scheme used in the optical communication system, which may affect the number of photons associated with each bit. Some participants express uncertainty about the details of the encoding techniques and their relevance to the calculations.

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An optical communication system operating at λ = 1550nm is transmitting pulses at 10 Gb/s. The magnitude of the optical pulses is the same. Calculate the number of photons received within each bit. Assume that the received average optical power is 10 mW.

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I calculated the energy per photon Ep = hc/λ ---> 1.28x10-19
then i calculated the energy per bit Eb = Pτ ----> (.01)(10-9) = 10-11

In class we did a similar example where the number of photons = Eb/Ep

I do that here and get 78 million... that seems way too big to me. Can someone explain what I did wrong if its wrong.
 
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You are given average optical power ... and a bitrate.
You are asked to find the number of photons in just one bit.

Energy per photon = good start.I'd have put 1.28e-16 mJ/photon.
But it may be easier to work out the photons per milliJoule.

Now you need the amount of energy per bit.
You have 10mW = 10mJ/s in 10Gb/s pulse rate ... so how many mJ per Gb? How many mJ per bit?
 
Further to Simon's comments, it occurs to me that a bit can be a 0 or a 1. Perhaps one of these corresponds to non-transmission of any photons for 0.1 ns.
 
haruspex said:
Further to Simon's comments, it occurs to me that a bit can be a 0 or a 1. Perhaps one of these corresponds to non-transmission of any photons for 0.1 ns.
I do not think we need to get into the details of the unspecified coding scheme. We are given an "average optical power" which I would interpret as the average power when transmitting an arbitrary bit pattern.

In the real world, we might be using phase encoding, group encoding, scrambling polynomials or other techniques. The value of any particular bit will have little or no correlation with the number of photons received. [I'm not familiar with the encoding techniques for, e.g. 10 gig SONET beyond what google can provide with five minutes of surfing]
 
Simon Bridge said:
You are given average optical power ... and a bitrate.
You are asked to find the number of photons in just one bit.

Energy per photon = good start.I'd have put 1.28e-16 mJ/photon.
But it may be easier to work out the photons per milliJoule.

Now you need the amount of energy per bit.
You have 10mW = 10mJ/s in 10Gb/s pulse rate ... so how many mJ per Gb? How many mJ per bit?
Ok this is where I'm messing up. He did this in class but now that I'm lookin back at my notes I'm having trouble following it.
 
haruspex said:
Further to Simon's comments, it occurs to me that a bit can be a 0 or a 1. Perhaps one of these corresponds to non-transmission of any photons for 0.1 ns.
He mentioned this in his example. That's where the 10-9 in my energy per bit came from. But I guess I'm applying it incorrectly.
 
nmsurobert said:
He mentioned this in his example. That's where the 10-9 in my energy per bit came from. But I guess I'm applying it incorrectly.
It's 10Gbps, not 1Gbps.
 
nmsurobert said:
Ok this is where I'm messing up. He did this in class but now that I'm lookin back at my notes I'm having trouble following it.
Don't try to copy what's in your notes, just use the maths you already know.
You have 10mW = 10mJ/s in 10Gb/s pulse rate ... so how many mJ per Gb? How many mJ per bit?
If you have 10 (bagged) carrots per box and 10 bags per box, how many carrots are in each bag?
If you have 10 x per y and 10 z per y, how many x per z?
 
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