Photons of light emitted within the D-lines per second?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the energy of photons emitted within the D-lines of a sodium lamp and determining the number of photons emitted per second based on the lamp's power output. The subject area includes concepts from quantum mechanics and energy calculations related to light emissions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the calculation of photon energy using wavelength and frequency, while also attempting to relate power output to the number of photons emitted. Some participants express uncertainty about how to begin the calculations for the second part of the problem.

Discussion Status

There are multiple interpretations of how to calculate the number of photons emitted per second, with some participants providing calculations while others question the appropriateness of units used in the reasoning. Guidance is offered regarding the importance of unit consistency, but no consensus is reached on the method.

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Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the specified power output of the lamp and the percentage of energy emitted within the D-lines. There is also mention of potential errors in unit application and the need for clarity in calculations.

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(a) Calculate the energy of one photon of light emitted within the D-lines of a sodium lamp if the wavelength of the D-lines is 589 nm.

(b) In a 200 W sodium street lamp, 30% of input electrical energy is emitted within the D-lines. How many photons of light are emitted within the D-lines per second?

(h = 6.6 * 10-34 J s, c = 3 * 108 m s-1)

Answers: (a) 3.4 * 10-19 J, (b) 1.8 * 1020 s-1

2. The attempt at a solution
(a) f = c / λ = 3 * 108 / 589 * 10-9 = 5.09 * 1014 Hz
E = hf = 6.6 * 10-34 * 5.09 * 1014 = 3.4 * 10-19 J

(b) No idea what to begin with. Any help please?
 
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If one apple has a mass of 200 g and I give you 2000 g of apples per second, how many apples per second do you get? How did you calculate that?
What changes if you receive only 30% of the apples I give away?
 
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mfb said:
If one apple has a mass of 200 g and I give you 2000 g of apples per second, how many apples per second do you get? How did you calculate that?
What changes if you receive only 30% of the apples I give away?
(i) I get 2,000 / 200 = 10 apples per second.

(ii) It's either 2,000 * .3 = 600 g -> 600 / 200 = 3 apples per second or 10 * .3 = 3 apples per second.

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200 * 0.3 = 60 W
60 * 3 * 108 = 1.8 * 1010 s-1

But the answer is 1.8 * 1020 s-1.
 
moenste said:
200 * 0.3 = 60 W
Missing units, but the result is right.
60 * 3 * 108 = 1.8 * 1010 s-1
The units are wrong, you multiply a power with a speed - the result cannot be a frequency.
Why do you take the speed of light here? It is unrelated to this subquestion.

In general, working with units helps to spot many errors.
 
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mfb said:
Missing units, but the result is right.
The units are wrong, you multiply a power with a speed - the result cannot be a frequency.
Why do you take the speed of light here? It is unrelated to this subquestion.

In general, working with units helps to spot many errors.
A lamp supplies 200 W of energy. 30% of this energy is emitted within the D-lines. It is 200 W * 0.3 = 60 W.

Energy of one photon of light emitted within the D-lines = 3.4 * 10-19 J.

60 W / 3.4 * 10-19 J = 1.8 * 1020 s-1.
 
Correct.

Just a notation issue: a/b * c is usually read as (a/b)*c which is not what you meant here.
It is better to put brackets around the denominator: 60 W / (3.4 * 10-19 J)
 
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