How many scientific people use Linux?

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The discussion centers around the use of Linux among scientific professionals, exploring various Linux distributions, their applications in scientific computing, and the availability of scientific tools on Linux. Participants share their experiences with different distros and software tools relevant to their work in scientific fields.

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  • Some participants use Gentoo, Fedora, Redhat, Ubuntu, and other distributions, citing personal preferences and experiences.
  • There is mention of specific scientific tools like OpenFOAM, Kile, Grace, Mathematica, Scilab, Octave, and others, with varying opinions on their usability and effectiveness on Linux.
  • Participants discuss the challenges of using Linux for tablet functionality and the lack of comprehensive software that matches the features of applications like Microsoft OneNote.
  • Some express a preference for the performance of Gnome over KDE, while others note issues like "exploding windows" in KDE.
  • Concerns are raised about the ease of use and software support on Linux compared to Windows, particularly for non-technical users.
  • Participants share their views on the security and programming advantages of Linux over Windows, alongside the frustrations of configuring Linux systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best Linux distribution or the most effective scientific tools. There are multiple competing views regarding the usability of different desktop environments and the adequacy of software support for scientific applications.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention limitations in software availability for specific tasks, such as computational tools for physics and electrostatics, and the need for source-based distributions for certain functionalities.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for scientists, engineers, and students interested in using Linux for scientific computing, as well as those exploring different Linux distributions and software tools for their work.

  • #31
dE_logics said:
No, situations have changed now...things are very stable and fast I have to say (though maintainers are missing for a few packages like Recoll, kat and chrome)...I've been on Gentoo since 3 weeks and no problems yet. Problems come when you start tweaking for best possible speed...for e.g I just tweaked my Kernel configuration and now I cannot mount FAT file systems...can only do it as root...god knows what's even the Gentoo forum people can't help.

I do not find the compilation times a problem...I do something else while it compiles...so it doesn't matter.

The catch with Gentoo is that to make it work well, you need to configure it well...USE flags are the critical part...so I have ~170 use flags set, so I get a faster system...aaa...the CFLAGS hardly matter unless you're on a unique processor.

I was wondering Gentoo should start hosting it's binary package...portage can install binaries.


Anyway, I will try arch and if I find it faster, I will switch; but for a year I am most probably with Gentoo.

BTW I have just ~8 months experience with Linux...that too in Ubuntu.
Gentoo is as stable as you make it to be. Used to be that messing with CFLAGS was a really popular option (setting things like -03 and -funrollallloops, etc.), that may have changed. And I also was using it before the binary installer (so it took something like a week to install and get set up, by the time you were done getting everything working anyway). I just no longer have the patience for compiling my apps; when I install something, I usually want it pretty quickly so I can work on something, or mess around or w/e. Waiting an hour doesn't really appeal to me.
 
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(setting things like -03 and -funrollallloops, etc.)

Did you apply these flags?...or do you think they work?
 

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