How many ways can you draw 3 queens and 2 kings from a deck of 52 cards?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the number of ways to draw 3 queens and 2 kings from a standard deck of 52 cards. Participants clarify that there are 6 combinations of 2 kings from 4 available and 4 combinations of 3 queens from 4 available. The total number of combinations is determined to be 24, calculated by multiplying the combinations of kings and queens (6 * 4). The conversation emphasizes the importance of logical reasoning and understanding combinatorial formulas rather than seeking direct answers.

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How many ways can you draw 3 queens and 2 kings from a deck of 52 cards?
 
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You are to pick out 5 cards out of 8 possible ones; three queens out of the four possibles, and two kings out of the 4 possibles.

Start with:

Out of 4 kings, how many 2-king combinations exist?
 
2, i guess?
 
diceyfume said:
2, i guess?
Do not guess, think.
 
ok 2 ... coz there are 4 kings in a deck of 52 cards...
 
No.

Try to think again. LOGICALLY. It isn't too hard.

First sub-question: How many 2-sets of kings exist if the king of spades is to be included?

Second sub-question: How many 2-sets of kings exist if the king of spades is NOT included?
 
diceyfume said:
ok 2 ... coz there are 4 kings in a deck of 52 cards...

since there's only 4 of them …

call them A B C and D, and write out all the possible pairs :wink:
 
2 if the king of spades is included and 1 if it is not.
 
This won't work, diceyfume.

You are obviously refusing to utilize your intellect, and are only interested in being spoonfed "answers".

I strongly advise you to quit maths, because your attitude makes you incompetent in it.
 
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tiny-tim said:
since there's only 4 of them …

call them a b c and d, and write out all the possible pairs :wink:
6 , ab, bc, cd, ad, ac, bd
 
  • #11
diceyfume said:
6 , ab, bc, cd, ad, ac, bd

Correct. Why didn't you start doing that on your own?

Now, how many sets of three queens can you form out of 4?
 
  • #12
arildno said:
This won't work, diceyfume.

You are obviously refusing to utilize your intellect, and are only interested in being spoonfed "answers".

I strongly advise you to quit maths, because your attitude makes you incompetent in it.
i guess its 6... i posted it... thanks, i'll just try next sem..
 
  • #13
arildno said:
Correct. Why didn't you start doing that on your own?

Now, how many sets of three queens can you form out of 4?
6 possibles for king right? and for queen how many?
 
  • #14
diceyfume said:
6 possibles for king right? and for queen how many?

d'oh! :rolleyes:

call them A B C and D, and list the ways!​
 
  • #15
for the queen, abc,bcd, cda? am i corrct?
 
  • #16
diceyfume said:
for the queen, abc,bcd, cda? am i corrct?

Nooo :rolleyes:
 
  • #17
abc,bcd, cda, abd... it's 4?
 
  • #18
diceyfume said:
abc,bcd, cda, abd... it's 4?


Right!

So, you have 6 2-sets of kings, and 4 3-sets of queens.

So, how many different combinations consisting of one king-set and one queen set can you then make?
 
  • #19
abc. abd, cda, bcd, it's 4?
 
  • #20
diceyfume said:
abc,bcd, cda, abd... it's 4?

Yes, it's 4 …

but you can't list them like that in an exam :wink:, so what formula would you show the examiner (and what formula for the 6 ways of the kings)?
 
  • #21
diceyfume said:
abc. abd, cda, bcd, it's 4?
That's right.
Read my previous post on how to finish the exercise.
 
  • #22
10, am i correct? am i going to add them?
 
  • #23
diceyfume said:
10, am i correct? am i going to add them?

If there's only 10, you can easily list them …

can you list them? :wink:
 
  • #24
diceyfume said:
10, am i correct? am i going to add them?

If you first take the (king of spades, king of hearts)-couple, how many 3-sets of queens can it be combined with?
 
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i don't know the formula, u guys just help me how to solve it...can u just give the formula to me then? pls
 
  • #26
diceyfume said:
i don't know the formula, u guys just help me how to solve it...
That's what we are doing right now.
can u just give the formula to me then? pls

Nope.
 
  • #27
abc. abd, cda, bcd, ab, ac, ad, bc, bd, cd
 
  • #28
diceyfume said:
i don't know the formula, u guys just help me how to solve it...can u just give the formula to me then? pls

diceyfume, you're being ridiculous …

you must know some formulas for these combination problems …

what book are you working from…

what do your notes say?
 
  • #29
diceyfume said:
abc. abd, cda, bcd, ab, ac, ad, bc, bd, cd
?
 
  • #30
diceyfume said:
abc. abd, cda, bcd, ab, ac, ad, bc, bd, cd

erm :redface: … try using different letters for kings and queens!
 

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