How Much Carbon from Fossil Fuels and Deforestation Remains in the Atmosphere?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of the percentage of carbon from fossil fuels and deforestation that remains in the atmosphere over a 250-year period, specifically from 1750 to 2000. Participants are exploring the relationship between CO2 concentration in parts per million (ppm) and the mass of carbon in the atmosphere, as well as the implications of these calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a homework problem involving the total mass of carbon from fossil fuels and deforestation, and the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the definition of ppm, indicating a need for foundational understanding.
  • A different participant confirms knowledge of converting CO2 ppm to atmospheric mass but expresses uncertainty about how to utilize that number in calculations.
  • Another contribution suggests that knowing the mass of carbon relative to the total mass of the atmosphere can facilitate calculations, and notes that the mass of the atmosphere will ultimately cancel out in the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to have varying levels of understanding regarding the calculations and concepts involved, leading to some uncertainty and differing approaches to the problem. No consensus is reached on the correct method to relate ppm to mass of carbon.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion about the relationship between ppm and mass of carbon, indicating potential gaps in understanding the underlying assumptions or definitions necessary for the calculations.

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Homework Statement



The total mass of C contained in all fossil fuels burned from 1750 to 2000 is estimated
as 2.77 x 1014 kg C. The amount of C released as CO2 from agricultural expansion and
deforestation during the same period is estimated as 1.31 x 1014 kg C. The concentration
of CO2 in the atmosphere was 360 ppm in 2000, corresponding to an atmospheric pool
mass of C of 7.74 x 1014 kg C. If the concentration of CO2 in 1750 was 280 ppm,
calculate the % of C from these 2 sources that has stayed in the atmosphere over the 250
years.


Homework Equations



Shown in class how to calculate molecular mass of atmosphere, was 28.96 g/mol

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried calculating molecular mass of atmosphere which is 28.96 g/mol.

Took 360 ppm = 360E-6 multiplied it by 44 g/mol CO2.

I got 0.01584 g/mol then divided this by molecular mass of atmosphere so CO2 is 0.05469%. I'm stuck and don't know how to relate this percent to mass of carbon.

I have also been suggested to use it a proportion so if 7.74E14 kg relates to 360 then 280 ppm CO2 relates to 6.02E14 Kg Carbon, but this doesn't seem right to me.

I just need to understand how ppm CO2 relates to kg C I think
 
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What is ppm definition?

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Parts per million. I know how to convert CO2 ppm to atm, but not sure what to do with that number either.
 
You know that given mass of carbon is 360/106 of the total mass of atmosphere - that should be enough to calculate mass of atmosphere. Once you have that, you can easily calculate mass of carbon when it is 280 ppm. But in the end mass of the atmosphere will cancel out and you will be left with exactly the same number as when using proportions :smile:

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