How Much Charge Is Needed to Levitate a Car Using Static Electricity?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the amount of charge needed to levitate a car using static electricity, considering gravitational forces and the distribution of charge on both the Earth and the car. The context includes a hypothetical scenario where extra electrons are deposited on both the car and the Earth.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss equating gravitational force with electrostatic force to find the required charge. There are attempts to clarify calculations and reasoning behind differing results.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on equating the forces involved, while others are questioning the calculations leading to different charge values. There is an ongoing exploration of the reasoning behind the discrepancies in results.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the charge on the Earth is uniformly distributed and that the separation distance is the radius of the Earth. There is mention of potential confusion regarding the mathematical steps taken to derive the charge.

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Homework Statement



Imagine that space invaders could deposit extra electrons in equal amounts on the Earth and on your car, which has a mass of 1200kg. Note that the rubber tires would provide some insulation. How much charge Q would need to be placed on your car (same amount on earth) in order to levitate it (overcome gravity)? (Hint: Assume the separation distance is the radius of the Earth- and that the Earth's charge is sprea uniformly so it acts as if it were located at the Earth's center.)

Homework Equations



Fg =Gm1m2/ d2

and possily: F= kq1q2/d2

The Attempt at a Solution



So i think you would first find the force of gravity between the Earth and the car, however from there I am not sure how you would determine the charge from that in order to lift the car. Could someone please help me with this part?
 
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Equate G*m1*m2/d^2=k*q1*q2/d^2. m1 is mass of the earth, m2 is mass of the car and the problem told you q1=q2=Q.
 
Dick said:
Equate G*m1*m2/d^2=k*q1*q2/d^2. m1 is mass of the earth, m2 is mass of the car and the problem told you q1=q2=Q.

I tried the technique that you said and I got the charge to be 5.3x 107C, but according to my teacher i was suppose to get 7.3 x 103C. Could you try to clarify why i got this answer? When you try it what answer do you get?
 
I get the same thing your teacher got. Maybe you'd better show your work.
 
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I tried the technique that you said and I got the charge to be 5.3x 107C, but according to my teacher i was suppose to get 7.3 x 103C. Could you try to clarify why i got this answer? When you try it what answer do you get?

I think your number is 5.3*10^7 coulombs^2=Q^2. You have to take a square root to get Q.
 
Dick said:
I think your number is 5.3*10^7 coulombs^2=Q^2. You have to take a square root to get Q.

O I forgot that I had q2 on top! thank you so much for your help, and explaining it through!
 

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