How Much Dry Steam Is Required to Melt Ice in an Open System?

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The discussion centers on calculating the amount of dry steam required to melt 450 kg of ice at -18 degrees Celsius in an open system, with the final effluent temperature set at 5 degrees Celsius. The user, Chopper, identifies the need to calculate the energy required to raise the ice temperature and equate it to the energy lost by the steam as it cools. The approach involves using algebra to set up an expression for the heat needed to raise the ice temperature and the heat lost by the steam, ultimately solving for the mass of steam required.

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I need a kick start for the following question. We're studying open/closed systems at the moment.

"450kg of ice at -18 degrees C is to be removed from a freezer using a jet of steam. How much dry steam at 100 degrees C is required if the final temp of the effluent is 5 degrees C?"

This is what I've sussed out so far.. because mass is being added to the system (the mass of the steam) I assume this is an open system problem. I haven't been given any information regarding enthalpy of either the ice or the steam so I'm assuming it's a simple matter of working out how much energy I need to bring the ice up to 5 degrees and introducing that energy into the freezer in the form of steam that will be giving up energy as it cools down to 5 degrees.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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chopper said:
I need a kick start for the following question. We're studying open/closed systems at the moment.

"450kg of ice at -18 degrees C is to be removed from a freezer using a jet of steam. How much dry steam at 100 degrees C is required if the final temp of the effluent is 5 degrees C?"

This is what I've sussed out so far.. because mass is being added to the system (the mass of the steam) I assume this is an open system problem. I haven't been given any information regarding enthalpy of either the ice or the steam so I'm assuming it's a simple matter of working out how much energy I need to bring the ice up to 5 degrees and introducing that energy into the freezer in the form of steam that will be giving up energy as it cools down to 5 degrees.
It should be a simple matter of algebra. Just set up the expression for heat h needed to raise the temperature of 450 kg of ice to 5 degrees and the heat lost by a mass m of stream. Equate the two and solve for m.

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