How Much Energy is Stored in a Hurricane's Rotation?

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The discussion revolves around estimating the energy stored in the rotational motion of a hurricane, modeled as a uniform cylinder with specific dimensions and properties. Participants are tasked with applying concepts from rotational motion and kinetic energy to this scenario.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the kinetic energy formula and the moment of inertia for a cylinder. There is confusion regarding the mass calculation, as the density of air is provided instead of a direct mass value. Questions arise about the relevance of height and whether the given diameter is correctly interpreted.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the interpretation of density versus mass and the importance of including height in calculations. There is an indication that one participant has resolved their confusion, but no consensus on the overall approach has been reached.

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The problem involves specific constraints, such as the dimensions of the hurricane and the density of air, which are critical for calculating the mass and energy. Participants are encouraged to work through the problem symbolically to minimize errors.

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Rotational Motion Question -- please help

Homework Statement



Estimate the energy stored in the rotational motion of a hurricane. Model the hurricane as a uniform cylinder 300 km and 5 km high, made of air whose mass is 1.3 kg/m^3. Estimate the outer edge of the hurricane to move at a speed of 200 km/h.



Homework Equations



KE = (1/2)*I*w^2

v= wR

For a uniform cylinder, I=(1/2)MR^2 (but it's hollow so would that make a difference, even though you're only given one radius)

The Attempt at a Solution


So here's how I started out:

KE = (1/2)*I*w^2

v= wR

--> Therefore KE = (1/2)[(1/2)MR^2][v/R]^2

The answer is 4E17 J, but I can't seem to get that. Can someone please tell me where I'm going wrong? I've been doing this problem for so long and I'm just not getting what I keep doing wrong. I feel like it might have something to do with the mass I'm using (M=1.3 kg/m^3) or the fact that I'm neglecting the height (h=5km)? It's not supposed to be a difficult problem...please help!
 
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sinclair18 said:

Homework Statement



Estimate the energy stored in the rotational motion of a hurricane. Model the hurricane as a uniform cylinder 300 km and 5 km high, made of air whose mass is 1.3 kg/m^3. Estimate the outer edge of the hurricane to move at a speed of 200 km/h.

Homework Equations



KE = (1/2)*I*w^2

v= wR

For a uniform cylinder, I=(1/2)MR^2 (but it's hollow so would that make a difference, even though you're only given one radius)

The Attempt at a Solution


So here's how I started out:

KE = (1/2)*I*w^2

v= wR

--> Therefore KE = (1/2)[(1/2)MR^2][v/R]^2

The answer is 4E17 J, but I can't seem to get that. Can someone please tell me where I'm going wrong? I've been doing this problem for so long and I'm just not getting what I keep doing wrong. I feel like it might have something to do with the mass I'm using (M=1.3 kg/m^3) or the fact that I'm neglecting the height (h=5km)? It's not supposed to be a difficult problem...please help!

What you're given is not a "mass" of air - it's the density of air. Units are mass per unit volume.

What's the volume of a cylinder? Hence, what is its mass? Work in symbols throughout (try to use LaTex, if possible), as there's less chance of error.

You definitely need the height that's given. Also, I'm assuming that 300km is the diameter, not the radius?
 
Yeah I just figured it out actually thanks soooo much!
 
sinclair18 said:
Yeah I just figured it out actually thanks soooo much!

No problem. Glad to help (if I did).
 

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