How Much Force Does a Man Feel in a Train-Truck Collision?

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The problem involves a collision between a train and a truck, focusing on the force experienced by a man in the truck during the event. The scenario includes specific masses, velocities, and a collision duration, prompting questions about the forces involved and the physics principles applicable to the situation.

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  • Participants discuss using impulse and acceleration equations to determine the force felt by the man. There is uncertainty about the reasonableness of the calculated force and whether it aligns with expectations for such a collision. Questions arise regarding the relationship between collision duration and force experienced.

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Some participants have provided guidance on maintaining consistency in calculations and considering the implications of collision duration on force. There is an ongoing exploration of how different factors affect the outcome, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants note the collision time of 1.5 seconds and question how typical collision durations compare, highlighting the role of vehicle design in influencing these times.

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Homework Statement


A 15000 kg train traveling at 30m/s collides with a 2500 truck with a 90 kg man going at 22m/s in the opposite direction. The time of collision is 1.5 seconds. After collision, both objects are moving in the same direction with a velocity of 22 m/s. What is the size of the force felt by the man

Homework Equations


ft=mΔv
f=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to use the impulse equation, but can't seem to get a reasonable answer from it. I tried to find the acceleration then the next force, but still couldn't find a reasonable answer for the force.

I first tried to find acceleration using Vf=Vi+at.
22=-22+1.5a
a=29.2 m/s/s

f=90*29.2
f=2640 N

that force seems to small for a collision like this. would it be reasonable to assume the force felt by the car is about equal to what the person will feel?
 
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centrix said:

Homework Statement


A 15000 kg train traveling at 30m/s collides with a 2500 truck with a 90 kg man going at 22m/s in the opposite direction. The time of collision is 1.5 seconds. After collision, both objects are moving in the same direction with a velocity of 22 m/s. What is the size of the force felt by the man


Homework Equations


ft=mΔv
f=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to use the impulse equation, but can't seem to get a reasonable answer from it. I tried to find the acceleration then the next force, but still couldn't find a reasonable answer for the force.

I first tried to find acceleration using Vf=Vi+at.
22=-22+1.5a
a=29.2 m/s/s

f=90*29.2
f=2640 N

that force seems to small for a collision like this. would it be reasonable to assume the force felt by the car is about equal to what the person will feel?

Hi centrix, welcome to Physics Forums.

You should obtain the same result from either the impulse or acceleration methods. Be sure to keep track of the velocity and momentum directions.

The man was lucky that the collision occurred over a relatively long timespan (1.5 seconds is practically an eternity in a collision. His truck must have excellent crumple zones!). What force would he experience if the time were only 1/10 second?
 
The force felt would definitely increase because the acceleration would increase while mass stays constant.

How long does a collision normally last?
 
centrix said:
The force felt would definitely increase because the acceleration would increase while mass stays constant.

How long does a collision normally last?

It depends upon the nature of the bodies involved. The more rigid the bodies, the smaller the deformation and the more brief the interaction. Vehicles are often designed to lengthen the collision time by the use of crumple zones which absorb energy as they 'fail', lengthening the time. Think in terms of fractions of a second.
 

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