Determining Tension & Lift Force for Helicopter & Truck

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The problem involves a helicopter lowering a truck and requires determining the tension in the cable and the lift force of the helicopter. The scenario includes specific weights and a need to control the descent speed over a given distance.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss isolating different components of the system, including the truck and helicopter, to analyze forces. There are questions about the necessity of isolating the helicopter and concerns regarding the signs used in calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with each other's reasoning, pointing out potential errors in sign conventions and suggesting the use of free body diagrams to clarify the problem. There is a focus on ensuring consistent treatment of forces acting on the system.

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Participants are navigating through assumptions about the direction of forces, particularly gravity, and the implications of using a single system versus isolating components. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in the setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A 15000-kg helicopter is lowering a 4000-kg truck by a cable of fixed length. The truck, helicopter, and cable are descending at 15.0 m/s and must be slowed to 5.00 m/s in the next 50.0 m of descent to prevent damaging the truck. Assume a constant rate of slowing.

Determine the tension in the cable.

Determine the lift force of the helicopter blades

Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


dont have answers but attempt was to isolate the system of truck
MG-FT=ma
4000*9.8-ft=4000*-2
ft=48000?

force of lift
LF-mg+mg =ma
LF-15000(9.8)+4000(9.8)=15000+4000(-2)
LF=152000
 
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You isolated the truck but you didn't isolate the helicopter?

Also your signs are off.
 
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why do i need to isolate the helicopter to find the lift i used the entire system
 
Yes, you're absolutely right. Just fix your signs then.
 
ohh u mean my 9.8 should be negative lol my bad
 
No, you used +ve for the truck and -ve for the helicopter.
 
You have your gravity vector pointing in two different directions.

Also, the tension in the cable is the same everywhere, draw a FBD and cut the problem into two halves. In the top half only consider the helicopter, in the bottom half only consider the truck.
 

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