How much statistical mechanics is enough for a physicist?

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The discussion centers around the necessary depth of knowledge in statistical mechanics for studying advanced topics such as quantum field theory (QFT), astrophysics, and black hole thermodynamics. Participants explore various resources and recommendations for studying statistical mechanics while expressing concerns about the breadth of the subject.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how much statistical mechanics is sufficient for advanced studies, noting their current knowledge from Tong's notes and Ballentine's book.
  • Another participant asserts that there is never "enough" statistical mechanics, emphasizing its importance in astrophysics and QFT, particularly in many-body formulations.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the question of "how much" can be reframed to consider the minimum necessary knowledge, implying that a minimalistic approach may not lead to success.
  • Some participants discuss various textbooks and resources, including recommendations for Landau & Lifshitz and P. Danielewicz's papers, while questioning the differences in depth and focus among different statistical mechanics texts.
  • One participant expresses that the recommended links may be too advanced for their current level, indicating a need for more accessible resources.
  • Another participant supports the value of the "little Reif" book and Tong's notes as good introductory materials.

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Participants express a range of views on the depth of statistical mechanics knowledge required, with no consensus on a specific amount or level of study deemed sufficient. There are differing opinions on the appropriateness of various textbooks and resources for different levels of understanding.

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Participants indicate varying levels of familiarity with statistical mechanics and advanced topics, which may influence their recommendations and perspectives on necessary knowledge. Some resources mentioned may not align with all participants' current understanding or needs.

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This discussion may be useful for students and researchers in physics who are considering the role of statistical mechanics in their studies of QFT, astrophysics, and related fields, as well as those seeking recommendations for study materials.

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How much statistical mechanics do I need to know to study QFT, astrophysics, black hole thermodynamics, and other advanced topics? And where should I study it in your opinion? So far I have only read Tong's notes however I don't think it is enough. Some quantum statistical mechanics is also covered in Ballentine's book that I just finished studying.
I am aware of the fact that statistical mechanics is a vast subject that reaches up to the chemistry/physics of matter and I would not like to get lost in details and applications that are too specific to these fields.
 
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There's never "enough" statistical mechanics ;-)). In astrophysics you need it for sure, and you can learn a great deal more on QFT when you also consider the many-body version in both the Matsubara imaginary time and the Schwinger-Keldysh real-time formulation for equilibrium and the latter also for off-equilibrium theory. Despite the vast applications in all of physics from condensed matter, via nuclear and particle to astronomy (physics of compact stars, the nuclear equation of state, neutron-star mergers/kilonovae) and cosmology (thermal evolution of the universe, nucleosynthesis, CMBR,...) it's also a good addition for the conceptual understanding of (relativistic and also non-relativistic) QFT.
 
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Because "how much" and "how little" are the same question, these questions can be restated as "what is the minimum I can get away with?"

That tends not to be an attitude leading to success,
 
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vanhees71 said:
There's never "enough" statistical mechanics ;-)). In astrophysics you need it for sure, and you can learn a great deal more on QFT when you also consider the many-body version in both the Matsubara imaginary time and the Schwinger-Keldysh real-time formulation for equilibrium and the latter also for off-equilibrium theory. Despite the vast applications in all of physics from condensed matter, via nuclear and particle to astronomy (physics of compact stars, the nuclear equation of state, neutron-star mergers/kilonovae) and cosmology (thermal evolution of the universe, nucleosynthesis, CMBR,...) it's also a good addition for the conceptual understanding of (relativistic and also non-relativistic) QFT.
I just finished studying Berkeley Statistical Physics by Reif. Some things I already knew, from Tong's notes. What should I study to get on with statistical mechanics at an appropriate level in your opinion? I saw that there are various statistical mechanics textbooks, what do you recommend and what are the differences?
For example, Kardar's "Statistical Physics of Particles" is much shorter than books by Reif, Huang, Landau or Pathria, why? Which book (or notes) can help me understand the topics you mentioned and the ones I mentioned? Thank you
 
It depends a bit on what topic you are most interested in. Landau & Lifshitz is excellent, particularly Vol. 10 about kinetic theory. For the real-time formalism a very good intro is

P. Danielewicz, Quantum Theory of Nonequilibrium Processes
I, Ann. Phys. 152, 239 (1984),
https://doi.org/10.1016/0003-4916(84)90092-7

P. Danielewicz, Quantum Theory of Nonequilibrium Processes
II. Application to Nuclear Collisions, Ann. Phys. 152, 305
(1984), https://doi.org/10.1016/0003-4916(84)90093-9

For the relativistic case

J. I. Kapusta and C. Gale, Finite-Temperature Field Theory;
Principles and Applications, Cambridge University Press, 2
edn. (2006).

N. P. Landsmann and C. G. van Weert, Real- and
Imaginary-time Field Theory at Finite Temperature and
Density, Physics Reports 145, 141 (1987),
https://doi.org/10.1016/0370-1573(87)90121-9
 
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I think the links you recommended are too advanced for me.
I am starting to study QFT, but I am also interested in astrophysics, cosmology, and black holes. In general, I am interested in a statistical mechanics book that will allow me to understand graduate level physics.
My current level is: notes by Tong + Berkeley Statistical Physics by Reif (the small book, which is introductory level)
 
I think the "little Reif" (Berkeley Physics Course volume on Stat. Phys.) is very good, and also Tong's lecture notes are.
 

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