How much water will freeze when a piece of ice is thrown into it?

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The problem involves a 50 gram piece of ice at -10°C being thrown into water at 0°C, with the question of how much water will freeze around the ice. The context is centered on heat transfer and phase changes in thermodynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the specific heat of ice and its role in the heat transfer process. There are attempts to calculate the amount of water that can freeze based on the heat absorbed by the ice. Questions are raised about unit consistency and the application of specific heat in the calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on incorporating the specific heat of ice into the calculations. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, with varying calculations presented. There is no explicit consensus on the final answer, but productive discussions are occurring regarding the methodology.

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Participants note the assumption that no heat is lost or gained from the surroundings, which may influence the calculations. There are also mentions of potential errors in unit matching and the need for clarity in the equations used.

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Homework Statement


A 50 gr piece of ice at temp' -100C is thrown in water which is at 00C.
How much water will freeze around it. no heat is lost or gained from outside.

Homework Equations


Specific heat of ice: 0.55
Melting heat: 79.7[cal/gr/C0]

The Attempt at a Solution


The ice comes from -10C0 to 0C0 by taking heat from the water. this amount of heat freezes the water:
##50[gr]\cdot 10[C^0]=79.7\left[\frac{cal}{gr\cdot C^0}\right]\cdot m\rightarrow m=6.3[gr]##
Is it correct?
 
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Where did you take the specific heat of ice into account?
Also, your units do not match, but that has the same error as origin.
 
You have forgotten take into account the specific heat of ice: 0,55...

Solving it 'without equations', that supercooled piece of ice can absorb 50 * 10 * 0,55 = 275 cal from the outside without melting, and that 'heat debit' is used up in freezing some water that is already at 0º C, so that one gram of that water needs just 79,7 cal to freeze. You have 275 cal 'available for freezing'. Thus, you can freeze 275/79,7 = 3,45 g of water...
 
##0.55\left[\frac{cal}{gr\cdot C^0}\right]\cdot50[gr]\cdot 10[C^0]=79.7\left[\frac{cal}{gr}\right]\cdot m\rightarrow m=3.45[gr]##
Is it correct?
 
Thanks
 

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