How should I show that the transformation makes the system Hamiltonian?

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The discussion focuses on demonstrating that a transformation results in a Hamiltonian system. The transformation involves specific equations for x and y, and the Hamiltonian function is provided. The proof requires showing that the time derivatives of q and p correspond to the partial derivatives of the Hamiltonian, which can be achieved through careful substitution and integration. Additionally, the discussion raises a question about proving the existence of a center at specific points when certain conditions on parameters are met, and it explores how to classify fixed points in the context of Hamiltonian dynamics. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationship between the transformed system and its periodic orbits.
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Homework Statement
Consider the system of equations ## \frac{dx}{dt}=(a-by)x(1-x^2), 0<x<1, \frac{dy}{dt}=-(c-dx)y(1-y^2), 0<y<1 ##, where ## a, b, c ## and ## d ## are positive constants.

Show that the transformation ## x=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2q}}}, y=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2p}}} ## makes the system Hamiltonian, with Hamiltonian function ## H(q, p)=ap-b\cdot ln(e^{p}+\sqrt{1+e^{2p}})+cq-d\cdot ln(e^{q}+\sqrt{1+e^{2q}}) ##. (Hint: You may find the following indefinite integral useful: ## \int \frac{dx}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2x}}}=ln(e^{x}+\sqrt{1+e^{2x}}). ##)
Relevant Equations
By definition, a system ## \dot{x}=X(x, y), \dot{y}=Y(x, y) ## is called a Hamiltonian system if there exists a function ## H(x, y) ## such that ## X=\frac{\partial H}{\partial y} ## and ## Y=\frac{\partial H}{\partial x} ##. Then ## H ## is called the Hamiltonian function for the system. A necessary and sufficient condition for ## \dot{x}=X(x, y) ## and ## \dot{y}=Y(x, y) ## to be Hamiltonian is that ## \frac{\partial X}{\partial x}+\frac{\partial Y}{\partial y}=0 ##.
Proof:

Consider the transformation ## x=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2q}}} ## and ## y=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2p}}} ## with the Hamiltonian function ## H(q, p)=ap-b\cdot ln(e^{p}+\sqrt{1+e^{2p}})+cq-d\cdot ln(e^{q}+\sqrt{1+e^{2q}}) ##.
Let ## \dot{x}=\frac{dx}{dt}=(a-by)x(1-x^2)=(a-by)(x-x^3) ## and ## \dot{y}=\frac{dy}{dt}=-(c-dx)y(1-y^2)=-(c-dx)(y-y^3) ##.
By using direct substitution of the transformation ## x=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2q}}} ## and ## y=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2p}}} ##,
we have that ## \dot{x}=\frac{dx}{dt}=(a-\frac{b}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2p}}})(\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2q}}}-(\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2q}}})^3)=(a-\frac{b}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2p}}})(\frac{e^{q}}{(e^{2q}+1)^{3/2}}) ## and ## \dot{y}=\frac{dy}{dt}=-(c-\frac{d}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2q}}})(\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2p}}}-(\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2p}}})^3)=-(c-\frac{d}{\sqrt{1+e^{-2q}}})(\frac{e^{p}}{(e^{2p}+1)^{3/2}}) ##.
Note that ## X=\frac{\partial H}{\partial p}=a-b(\frac{1}{e^{p}+\sqrt{1+e^{2p}}})(e^{p}+\frac{e^{2p}}{\sqrt{1+e^{2p}}}) ## and ## Y=\frac{\partial H}{\partial q}=c-d(\frac{1}{e^{q}+\sqrt{1+e^{2q}}})(e^{q}+\frac{e^{2q}}{\sqrt{1+e^{2q}}}) ##.

Above is my proof for this problem. Is everything correct up to here? How should I finish this proof? What needs to be done?
 
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You need to show that \dot q = \frac{\partial H}{\partial p} nad \dot p = - \frac{\partial H}{\partial q} for some H(p,q) (and the question suggests one). Therefore you need to calculate \dot q and \dot p; the easiest way to do that is <br /> \dot q = \frac{dq}{dx} \dot x \qquad \dot p = \frac{dp}{dy}\dot y. Note, however, that x = f(q) and y = f(p) where f(z) = (1 + e^{-2z})^{-1/2}. Rearranging this we have e^{2q} = \frac{x^2}{1 - x^2} so that 2q = 2\ln x - \ln(1 - x^2) and hence \begin{split}<br /> \frac{dq}{dx} &amp;= \frac1x + \frac{x}{1 - x^2} \\<br /> &amp;= \frac{1}{x(1 - x^2)}. \end{split} The denominator neatly cancels the factor of x(1-x^2) in \dot x leaving <br /> \dot q = a - by = a - bf(p). In the same way you can find \dot p.

Now \dot q is a function of p alone and \dot p is a function of q alone, so setting <br /> H = \int \dot q \,dp - \int \dot p \,dq <br /> will give <br /> \dot q = \frac{\partial H}{\partial p} \qquad \dot p = -\frac{\partial H}{\partial q} as required.
 
pasmith said:
You need to show that \dot q = \frac{\partial H}{\partial p} nad \dot p = - \frac{\partial H}{\partial q} for some H(p,q) (and the question suggests one). Therefore you need to calculate \dot q and \dot p; the easiest way to do that is <br /> \dot q = \frac{dq}{dx} \dot x \qquad \dot p = \frac{dp}{dy}\dot y. Note, however, that x = f(q) and y = f(p) where f(z) = (1 + e^{-2z})^{-1/2}. Rearranging this we have e^{2q} = \frac{x^2}{1 - x^2} so that 2q = 2\ln x - \ln(1 - x^2) and hence \begin{split}<br /> \frac{dq}{dx} &amp;= \frac1x + \frac{x}{1 - x^2} \\<br /> &amp;= \frac{1}{x(1 - x^2)}. \end{split} The denominator neatly cancels the factor of x(1-x^2) in \dot x leaving <br /> \dot q = a - by = a - bf(p). In the same way you can find \dot p.

Now \dot q is a function of p alone and \dot p is a function of q alone, so setting <br /> H = \int \dot q \,dp - \int \dot p \,dq<br /> will give <br /> \dot q = \frac{\partial H}{\partial p} \qquad \dot p = -\frac{\partial H}{\partial q} as required.
That was very informative and thorough! I have another question under this same problem.

Show that if ## b>a ## and ## d>c ##, then the transformed system has a centre at ## x=c/d ## and ## y=a/b ##, and prove that in this case, all orbits of the original system are periodic.

My question is, how should I construct a proof for this question? Does the given point ## x=c/d, y=a/b ## indicate a fixed point for this system?
 
Math100 said:
That was very informative and thorough! I have another question under this same problem.

Show that if ## b>a ## and ## d>c ##, then the transformed system has a centre at ## x=c/d ## and ## y=a/b ##, and prove that in this case, all orbits of the original system are periodic.

My question is, how should I construct a proof for this question? Does the given point ## x=c/d, y=a/b ## indicate a fixed point for this system?

Note that the transformation in part (a) has domain (q,p) \in [0,\infty)^2 and range [1,\infty)^2.

How you determine if a point is or is not a fixed point?

If a point is a fixed point, how do you classify it as a centre or otherwise? What are the possible types of trajectory which can occur in a Hamiltonian system?
 
The fixed points occur when ## X(x, y)=Y(x, y)=0 ##.
 
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