How spinor vector envolves in describing the atom

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The discussion centers around the role of spinor vectors in the description of atomic particles, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics. Participants explore the nature of spinors and their distinction from vectors, as well as the implications for different types of particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how spinor vectors are involved in describing atoms.
  • Another participant clarifies that a spinor is not a vector and explains that for spin-½ particles, the wave-function includes a spinor, while for spin-0 or spin-1 particles, it is a scalar or vector.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the terminology used in the discussion and requests further explanation.
  • There is a mention of quantum numbers and their role in describing states, with one participant indicating they are new to the subject of quantum physics.
  • A later reply suggests that the complexity of the topic is the reason it is taught over an extended period, encouraging a slow approach to learning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit varying levels of understanding regarding spinors and their application, with some clarifications provided but no consensus reached on the initial question about their involvement in atomic description.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing definitions and assumptions regarding the terms used, particularly in relation to spinors and quantum numbers. The discussion reflects a range of familiarity with the topic among participants.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in quantum mechanics, particularly those new to the subject or seeking clarification on the concepts of spinors and quantum states.

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welcome to pf!

hi sncum! welcome to pf! :smile:

a spinor is not a vector

each particle has a wave-function Aeiφ

for spin-½ particles (fermions, such as the electron or proton), A is a spinor not a vector

for spin-0 or spin-1 particles (scalar or vector bosons, such as the photon), A is a scalar or vector :wink:
 


i didn't get this term really if u vl explained it please:smile:
 


and also all the quntum number how they described the state ?
actually i have just started learning physics (quantum)
 
sncum, there is a reason why they spend a whole semester (or more) teaching you this stuff! :smile:

take it sloooooow! :wink:​
 


.k thanx
 

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