# Job Skills How to become a scientific advisor?

1. Aug 5, 2017

### plasma88

Hi! I just earned a PhD in Physics and I am interested in the career of scientific advisor. Can anyone give me some advices (sorry for the game of words :-)!) about a possible way to follow to become it? Thank you very much

2. Aug 5, 2017

### Dr.D

Are you talking about industrial employment, or an advisor position on PF?

3. Aug 5, 2017

### ZapperZ

Staff Emeritus
What exactly is a "career of scientific advisor"? Can you provide a link that exemplify such a career?

Zz.

4. Aug 5, 2017

5. Aug 5, 2017

### plasma88

1 What exactly is a "career of scientific advisor"? -> with scientific advisor I mean basically a consultant but in the scientific field. Let's give an example: If a company wants to switch from standard energy supplier to renewable energy one and needs to understand which is the best options among solar, wind, etc.. in that case the company can ask to a consultant to study the situation and find the most convenient solution.

2 Can you provide a link that exemplify such a career? -> googling I find this link http://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2014/09/science-careers-guide-consulting-careers-phd-scientists, I hope this can clarify what I mean :-)

6. Aug 5, 2017

### symbolipoint

Masters' Degree or higher in some field like Physics, or Engineering. If you want to include something Bio related, not sure what exactly to suggest. You did not say what focus in scientific advising you want to do. Geological? Geophysics? Mining? Environmental?

7. Aug 5, 2017

### Choppy

So you're asking how to become a consultant.

I might take that article that you linked to with a grain of salt. They seem to imply that anyone with a PhD can simply walk into the consulting field. Maybe that's true in some sectors, but I'd be a little skeptical that someone would be willing to hire you for your opinion on something you know little-to-nothing about simply because you have a graduate degree.

Getting into this kind of work in my field (Medical Physics) usually happens when someone has a specific skill set that a company might need on a temporary basis. An example might be commissioning a new linear accelerator. A lot of work needs to be done to set something like this up, and sometimes its easier to just hire someone for a month or two to do the work. When this happens, the employer or customer is usually looking for someone who has a solid track record in doing this kind of thing.

That said, you might want to ask around at some of the bigger conferences in your field. If there's an industrial problem that often requires the expertise of people in your field, chances are there will be companies seeking people to help out with that at the major conferences, as well as other smaller companies or individuals advertising their services. To break into the market, you might want to talk to one of these individuals or small companies to get their take on the field and how you might enter it.

8. Aug 5, 2017

### Dr. Courtney

Consulting straight out of grad school will likely be tricky. Depending on your field of physics, location, and other background, there are a few firms who hire consultants. I can give more specific advice of you PM me a resume or CV.

Academic positions at less demanding (not R1) schools leave plenty of time for consulting and can help pay the bills while you grow a solo consulting business.

9. Aug 6, 2017

### plasma88

Yes you are right. I am interested in field of renewable energy.

10. Aug 6, 2017

### plasma88

Thank you very much for your suggestions :-)

11. Aug 6, 2017

### plasma88

Thanks for your advice :-). What do you mean Academic positions at less demanding (not R1) schools''?

12. Aug 6, 2017

### Staff: Mentor

That is a US-specific term. It refers to the Carnegie Classification of universities and colleges:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carne...ions_of_Higher_Education#Basic_classification

R1 is universities with the "highest level" of research activity. Lower-level universities and other types of bachelor's-granting schools usually also have some research activity (at varying levels), generally as a complement to their teaching activity which is their main mission.

13. Aug 6, 2017

### Dr. Courtney

At schools without heavy research requirements, even a "heavy" teaching load often does not exceed 15 credit hours per semester - that's 15 or so student contact hours per week for 32 weeks a year. With office hours and prep time, the total burden can be about 25 hours per week, especially after a couple times through a course when prep times are greatly reduced. That's a full time salary (though not usually a great one) for about 800 hours per year, which leaves 1200 hours per year to bootstrap a consulting business (assuming a 2000 hour work year - 40 hours per week, 50 weeks per year).

But one needs to read the fine print in the faculty contract, and one also needs to get a favorable teaching schedule: classes close together and that one has taught before so one is not usually spending more than 10 hours per week on faculty duties outside the classroom.

14. Aug 6, 2017

### Dr.D

I had a position that might be described in this way. I was the in-house consultant for all mechanical systems questions for a medium sized aerospace manufacturer. I must say, it was great fun, and never, ever, was it dull. I was available to all the engineering staff on a walk-in basis, and some or their problems I could solve in 15 minutes, while others would take 15 days.

I got that position because of a former student who was already employed with the company. When the company saw the need and began looking for someone, he put my name forward and that's how it came about. In a more general sense then, I think we could say that such things happen by knowing the right people and by being known to them.

I should add that, at that time, I had almost 40 years of work experience, so this is not something likely to happen straight out of school.

15. Aug 6, 2017

### symbolipoint

Many years of experience counts heavily for ability to become consultant, as noted in Dr. D posting, #14. Many of those who have worked in some industry have seen this.

16. Aug 7, 2017

### plasma88

Thank you very much for sharing your experience. It seems to me that this kind of job requires several years of experience maybe still in academy to reach a high level of expertise. Thus, could be useful to do may some years of post-doc?

17. Aug 7, 2017

### plasma88

Thanks I did't know this :-)

18. Aug 7, 2017

### plasma88

Thanks for your reply. I think that to obtain such a type of contracts one may need some years of post-doc? Or PhD is enough?

19. Aug 7, 2017

### plasma88

Thank you for your reply. Now, my question is: could be better to do some some year of post-doc or it is more useful to search already from now on position in industry in order to acquire experience ?

20. Aug 7, 2017

### Nidum

What knowledge and skills do you currently have or aspire to have to offer potential clients ?