How to Calculate Drag Coefficient for a Fire Helicopter's Bucket?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the drag coefficient (C_d) for a fire helicopter's bucket weighing 560 kg, suspended by a 20.6 m cable, while flying at a constant speed of 39.2 m/s at an angle of 39.6 degrees from the vertical. The cross-sectional area of the bucket is 3.96 m². Participants clarify that the drag force can be expressed as F_drag = (C_D / A) * (ρ * v² / 2), emphasizing the need to calculate the drag force rather than relying on terminal velocity.

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A fire helicopter carries a 560-kg bucket at the end of a cable 20.6 m long as in the figure below. As the helicopter flies to a fire at a constant speed of 39.2 m/s ,the cable makes an angle of 39.6 with respect to the vertical. The bucket presents a cross-sectional area of 3.96m^2 in a plane perpendicular to the air moving past it. Determine the drag coefficient, assuming that the resistive force is proportional to the square of the bucket's speed.

I've got that C_d = 2mg / (V_T)^2A\rho, but I don't know how to find the terminal velocity of the bucket to find the coefficient of drag. Can anyone help?
 

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You don't need to use the terminal verlocity at all, but a more general expression for the force of friction. You have enough information to determine the force of friction, and you know the airspeed.
 
But the equation for the force of friction is f_f = \mu N. I don't know the coefficient of friction... unless it's 1 since it's flying through the air?
 
Remember Newton's 1st Law!

\sum F_{x} = 0

\sum F_{y} =0
 
Sorry, what I meant is that you need a more general expression for drag (rather than friction). You should be able to calculate the force that the drag exerts and work from there.
 
What do you mean a more general equation for drag? That's all my book gives me...
 
Try

F_{drag} = \frac{C_{D}}{A} \frac{\rho v^2}{2}
 

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